What are the firearm owners here carrying and how?

[YeOldeStonecat]

The problem is criminals now own guns still are they going to hand their weapons in dont think so. Was an incident the other day some fool in his car reached into his pocket to get a lighter for a cigi and fired his pistol into his testicle..wrong weapon

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/o...g-crime-spree-court-told-20160927-grpjqz.html

Middle Eastern crime gangs of course...

Personally I dont see the need to own a .50 Calibre rifle or high powered assault rifles, but thats my opinion.

That there is funny! I call that Darwinism...."elimination of the stupid!" 'cept sadly he didn't get eliminated. So he lives to go on a crime spree again!

Re: high power and assault rifles...even though I am "pro 2nd amendment"....and I've enjoyed shooting assault rifles, including full automatics in the past, I do agree we need better ways to control those these days.

And last night, in the US, we had another gun related tragedy....
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/us/south-carolina-elementary-school-shooting/
We need to find a way to "connect the dots"...between people that have mental issues, and availability of guns to them, or in their homes. If you look at the history of more than 75% of the gun related tragedies in the US, such as shootings at school, it is usually a person with a history of...depression, mental issues, seeing a psychologist, etc. I know there are health privacy laws here...but re: guns, we need to tighten the rules there. This kid here in the story linked above...he was schooled at home, this tells me he was a socially challenged kid, and I'm willing to bet a few pints of Guinness we'll find out he'd been seeing a psychiatrist. The tragedy that happened not far from me a couple of years ago, at Sandy Hook School, that kid had a huge history of problems....and the mom had a huge collection of guns. She paid the ultimate price for that bad decision....IMO, if you have someone in your home who is disturbed in the head, you should not have weapons in the house.

Many of the shootings in the US...the person doing the shooting should not have been able to get their hands on a weapon with existing laws that were in place, but things fell through the cracks.

 

[oldtech]

You all realize this is in general chat correct? Why in the world would you discuss (back to the listed topic) what you carry in a public forum. Around here that info is need to know only.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

It's not top secret or illegal..for me.

 

[Diggs]

You all realize this is in general chat correct? Why in the world would you discuss (back to the listed topic) what you carry in a public forum. Around here that info is need to know only.

Hmmm.... Around here if you have a "Right to carry" sign in your front yard chances are pretty good the guy that wants to burglarize will go to your neighbors house that has the gun protest sign out front. I believe studies have show that advertising what you carry (open carry) drastically reduces crime.

I'm kind of watching this discussion from afar. Although I don't carry, almost everyone has guns in the house here. Burglary is almost non-exist. We don't usually lock our doors when gone. Who wants to get shot (by all the neighbors) for a few house trinkets.

 

[MichaelEC]

You all realize this is in general chat correct? Why in the world would you discuss (back to the listed topic) what you carry in a public forum. Around here that info is need to know only.

Why? Are you going to announce to everyone I know what I'm carrying every day? Does anyone visiting this site really care? I know no one here personally and have never met them nor do I know where they live.

People I interact with on a daily basis such as customers and friends are the ones that do not have a need to know that I carry, or what I carry or if I'm carrying at all.

 

[trevm999]

Why? Are you going to announce to everyone I know what I'm carrying every day? Does anyone visiting this site really care? I know no one here personally and have never met them nor do I know where they live.

People I interact with on a daily basis such as customers and friends are the ones that do not have a need to know that I carry, or what I carry or if I'm carrying at all.

I think the point is that if you have your business name in your signature or username, you might be linking yourself via a Google search to the fact that you carry and what you carry.

 

[MichaelEC]

Not too worried about it. But thanks.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Hmmm.... Around here if you have a "Right to carry" sign in your front yard chances are pretty good the guy that wants to burglarize will go to your neighbors house that has the gun protest sign out front. I believe studies have show that advertising what you carry (open carry) drastically reduces crime..

I remember when some states wanted to "make public"...the list of people that have a carry permit, and registered firearms.
I thought it was an incredibly stupid idea. NOT because it lists who has guns in the home, but...because of easy logic, now criminals can figure out which homes do NOT have guns. The list may have marked homes protected by guns, but it also labeled homes with no protection! basically making it safer for burglers/home invaders.

 

[oldtech]

I think the point is that if you have your business name in your signature or username, you might be linking yourself via a Google search to the fact that you carry and what you carry.

Bingo


And... Let's presume for a moment that I am a bad guy ( open for debate I know ) having now linked your business and the fact you are a firearm owner along with your business registration it is easy to find your home address. Most CCW holders own more than one weapon and unless you work from home it's kind of trivial to determine if you are home or not and whether those additional weaps are unattended. This happens in about as much time as it took to type this paragraph so it really isn't much of a burden.

In my experience it is not wise to advertise the fact you are an owner or carrier until there is a need to do so. Jus sayin...

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

In my experience it is not wise to advertise the fact you are an owner or carrier until there is a need to do so. Jus sayin...

It's already public record in > 50% of the states. See one of my replies above. Much easier and a much more productive list of homes in the area right on that list.
That pesky NRA sticker on my truck
That "Ammo is expensive so no more warning shots" sign in the front of my yard. And "this house protected by Smith & Wesson" sign in my neighbors yard, and other neighbors yard. Heck..may as well say the whole neighborhood is protected!
'course there's a good n proper carriage bolt secured gun safe hidden fairly well also.....it ain't coming out in less than a few hours unless the thiefs bring some sawzalls. But my wife works her business from home...so they'll have a ****** of Italian woman to deal with that I've trained at the range too!

The point you make isn't overlooked, it's an obvious point that most have already considered. However, IMO, the vast majority of break ins are opportunistic thiefs, home invasions, done without research. And the basic, often done steps like "this home protected by guns" signs in the front yards will deter a good % of those break-ins by idiot meth heads. The percentage of calculated, researched breakins for the purpose of stealing guns is very small.

 

[MichaelEC]

Good thing I work from home. Nothing on the exterior of my home or in my yard belies the fact that I own firearms. There is also nothing posted about the K9 German Shepherd Dog in the home either.

 

[NETWizz]

You all realize this is in general chat correct? Why in the world would you discuss (back to the listed topic) what you carry in a public forum. Around here that info is need to know only.

It is really hard to look up NETWizz. Filling in the blanks you gather the following: Male, Lives in West Columbia, SC... carries. Hum. Doesn't exactly give it away to the bad guys.

 

[NETWizz]

Hmmm.... Around here if you have a "Right to carry" sign in your front yard chances are pretty good the guy that wants to burglarize will go to your neighbors house that has the gun protest sign out front. I believe studies have show that advertising what you carry (open carry) drastically reduces crime.

I'm kind of watching this discussion from afar. Although I don't carry, almost everyone has guns in the house here. Burglary is almost non-exist. We don't usually lock our doors when gone. Who wants to get shot (by all the neighbors) for a few house trinkets.

... OR come by when you are not home looking to steal your firearms. You still NEED to lock your door and take the most basic of precautions. Most crime is a crime of opportunity. Not locking your doors and thinking you are safe might one day end up catching up to you.

Besides, if someone accidentally stumbles in (no forced entry) then you shoot them, you are MUCH more likely to do a jail term when they argue the poor guy was just dumb and drunk... Did NOT break/enter. At least with the door locked, a drunk will quickly figure out it isn't his house and turn away OR a genuine burglar WILL break in leaving evidence of forced entry AND hopefully making a loud noise to wake you up, so you can arm yourself. It helps everyone locking your house. At the very least it sets the expectation of security.

 

[oldtech]

Glad you all are making the educated decision to post this info - not what I would do but hey, to each their own.

 

[NETWizz]

Glad you all are making the educated decision to post this info - not what I would do but hey, to each their own.

It is pretty unlikely that a criminal would look on a tech forum, too. This just isn't their type of place unless they are trying to find someone to unlock a stolen piece of computer hardware. That said, I would think twice if I ran a traditional computer repair busyness that was open to the general public vs a consulting group that is called out.

My clients are vetted in that they are all employed by some companies... simply put I don't have crazy folks wandering in off the street.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Glad you all are making the educated decision to post this info - not what I would do but hey, to each their own.

I did 105 mph the other day....oh noz...da police will read this and arrest me!
Just wait til our new Charger R/T arrives next week...I'll go faster than my trucks 105!

 

[NYJimbo]

Can we get a detailed post from someone here who has actually drawn their weapon during or just after doing a job and the outcome of that with any verifiable details ?

 

[Diggs]

Besides, if someone accidentally stumbles in (no forced entry) then you shoot them, you are MUCH more likely to do a jail term when they argue the poor guy was just dumb and drunk... Did NOT break/enter. At least with the door locked, a drunk will quickly figure out it isn't his house and turn away OR a genuine burglar WILL break in leaving evidence of forced entry AND hopefully making a loud noise to wake you up, so you can arm yourself. It helps everyone locking your house. At the very least it sets the expectation of security.

As I said, not locked when gone during the day..... At night the doors are locked for protection (and advanced warning as mentioned above - I want time to clip my pistol).

 

[MichaelEC]

I don't leave any invitations either. Even when I'm open here at home the door is still closed and locked. I can see cars pull up so it's not a problem of a customer pushing on a locked door thinking I'm not open.

On nicer days such as we are finally starting to have, the storm door is still locked even if the front door is open.

Lisl von Schlaf is always close at hand too.

 

[TechLady]

As a woman I would never, EVER let any kind of service guy into my home if I had any idea he was carrying or got even a whiff of an affinity for guns. Period. You think you're the good guys, but we don't know you and don't care. (And eeeeevverybody's the good guy with a gun...until the day they're not).