Windows 8 ... Wow.

Loaded up win8 in a vm today. I had once before but it only lasted about 15mins and I deleted it. Now, Im taking a closer look because I want to be 'fair'.

It stinks.
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Its evidently made for those challenged by computers and just want to get their AOL email. Thats pretty much it. I thnk few people will even bother to click on "desktop" and will only be able to manage the buttons. I got to the control panel by rt.clicking the network icon on the task bar and choosing "network center" and then choose control panel home from the left menu. Thats pretty bad.
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Ill also probably recommend:
windows 7 / Linux Mint

@gunslinger - we think the same I think.

Best Regards,

coffee
 
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Another huge error for MS during this whole fiasco is the Surface Pro tablet release which is noticeably "MIA". Originally it was supposed to be launched along side the Surface RT with Windows 8. That didn't happen. Then we have the confusion surrounding "what is Surface RT?" and the confusion of "what is Windows 8? and what is it trying to accomplish?" Then you have the slew of negative media articles regarding both and the user confusion of how to use Windows 8. These are likely the reasons Sinofsky is gone. This roll-out is a colossal flop. Apple execs must be LTFAO at this.

As Paul McDougall puts it: "there's a quiet little disaster in the making for the company and its partners."

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I was on the phone with a customer this evening who had tried to do a System Restore on their Win 8 PC. This resulted in booting to a blank, black screen for them.

I was explaining over the phone how to use Shift-F8 to boot to the new "Advanced Options" boot menu. I thought maybe I could walk them through undoing the restore. Shift-F8 wouldn't work for them.

I had never actually done the Shift-F8 thing myself, only read about it. So I try it on my laptop. Doesn't work for me either. I read that it my not work every time, so I keep trying. After a few tries, I manage to get my own laptop into what is known as the "Automatic Repair Loop" (google it. you're bound to see it soon). After much research, I still haven't fixed my laptop. I will be trying again tomorrow.

The customer will be dropping their PC off Monday, even though Win 8 made me look like a fool.

I can use Win 8 just fine, but i suspect this will not be my last horror story when trying to repair it.
 
windows 98 - good
windows me - crap
windows xp - good
windows vista - crap
windows 7 - good
windows 8 - crap

anyone see a trend? (yes I know I left out windows 2000 but it really wasn't a home user OS)

honestly, how is it an improvement to take almost any given process in windows and ADD steps to it?
 
I have been trying to use it on a computer with an actual touchscreen. It is almost impossible. I seem to be having difficulty moving between apps. Once I get to the desktop, I cant seem to get back to Metro.

I am finding it difficult to see how typical users can use this in its intended form. I had to hook up a keyboard an mouse, which is counter-intuitive to what I was expecting. Shame, since I am trying to keep an open mind.
 
Wheelie said:
Windows 8 is a real moneymaker. Have already wiped and reloaded 4 PC/laptops this week with Windows 7.

I'm sensing a bit of product rejection (I think Ballmer is too). The place to watch closely is Best Buy. They are stocking only Windows 8 machines ... they only had a couple of Windows 7 machines on-hand at my Best Buy when I called earlier this week.

I need to review MikeLierman's post on page 4 of this thread and learn how to make Windows 8 like Windows 7. That could also be another moneymaker off this Windows 8 dilemma.

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I find it interesting that HP did a complete 180 on not supporting Windows 7 on computers that came installed with Windows 8. I think that shows how poorly Windows 8 is being accepted.

Are your customers buying computers with Windows 8 Pro & then downgrading to Windows 7 or are you just buying copies of Windows 7?

I agree with the idea of making Windows 8 like Windows 7. We will probably see ads popping up on Craigslist for this service any time now.
 
Tekguy said:
... Are your customers buying computers with Windows 8 Pro & then downgrading to Windows 7 or are you just buying copies of Windows 7? ...
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This was one job (a business customer). They were all 4 (3 laptops and 1 desktop) recently purchased through Dell and came with Windows 8 installed. I just reinstalled Win7 on them using the Dell OEM disk.

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deutschnaftula said:
thats a good one.............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nU&feature=relmfu



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyc1RVCXvAk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIq_wl-KBjk&feature=related
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Yup, these are some of the videos I have been posting as well. This is exactly how most people react to Windows 8. They don't seem super excited about the new IU....lol



wheelie said:
The bad news continues to pour in ....
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Is anyone really shocked?
 
hightechrex said:
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

Free for a month. Cost $4.99 after that. Takes 60 seconds to setup and keeps the new UI and features of Windows 8...

Stop.... complaining. Even without this Windows 8 is far from complicated
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No one said it was complicated. Its just a huge step backwards in intuitiveness and usability. Also it just seems wrong that I now have to buy a program to add back in the basic functionality I lost.
 
Had my first experience with Windows 8 last week. One of our break fix clients had a computer go down in his office. So the client went to the store and purchased a new computer with Windows 7 Home Premium. He called me after purchasing the computer, and I told him he would need at least Windows 7 Pro so that we could add it to his SBS2003 domain. Instead of purchasing the upgrade to Windows 7 Pro as I suggested, he let one of the store clerks talk him into buying an upgrade to Windows 8 Pro instead.

I was very reluctant at first, but was surprised at how easy it was to setup on his SBS2003 network, add printers etc.
 
How soon until MS offers a free migration path to downgrade, err, lateral transfer back to 7?

At least give the consumer a choice to set up 8 for a PC or tablet. I realize most people are too technically lazy or obtuse to own a PC. I get that. So let them buy a tablet with 8/Metro or RT and let the PC user buy 8/traditional desktop.

Everyone happy.
 
mr m said:
How soon until MS offers a free migration path to downgrade, err, lateral transfer back to 7?

At least give the consumer a choice to set up 8 for a PC or tablet. I realize most people are too technically lazy or obtuse to own a PC. I get that. So let them buy a tablet with 8/Metro or RT and let the PC user buy 8/traditional desktop.

Everyone happy.
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I completely agree. I think on first boot the OS should detect if its on a touch device and give the user the option to have the "metro" IU. If they don't choose this option it installs basically as Windows 7 without the mess.
 
gunslinger said:
I completely agree. I think on first boot the OS should detect if its on a touch device and give the user the option to have the "metro" IU. If they don't choose this option it installs basically as Windows 7 without the mess.
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I mentioned the same thing on the Ubuntu forums and I was pretty put down about it. I have no idea what the developers are thinking or Ubuntu Admin.

I bet MS doesnt offer it and it comes as an add-on program from a 3rd party. Probably a desktop replacement of some type maybe.

Best Regards,

coffee
 
FoolishTech said:
Heh, I tried to print from that built-in PDF reader the other day. Took me 5 minutes to figure it out.
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And you have been at this for how many years? Can you imagine the average user?


Coffee said:
I mentioned the same thing on the Ubuntu forums and I was pretty put down about it. I have no idea what the developers are thinking or Ubuntu Admin.
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Same thing they were thinking with Unity I guess. Thats the main reason I switched to Mint.
 
gunslinger said:
I think on first boot the OS should detect if its on a touch device and give the user the option to have the "metro" IU. If they don't choose this option it installs basically as Windows 7 without the mess.
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^^^ thank you! I have been saying this since the developer preview came out. Can't believe they didn't put the option for that into the final product.
 
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