Windows 8 ... Wow.

nonchalant said:
LOL..I can't help but imagine the look on most noob users' faces when they start up Win 8 and they cant find the Start button. They will be like wtf :confused:

:D <-- Evil grin
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Actually the "noobs" are like . WTF this is just like a phone. Awesome. Seriously, its the noobs and non techy users that actually love Windows 8.

Personally I dont like it, but in the whole scheme of things I, as many of you, are a minority.
 
I am spending more time removing windows 8 and downgrading to 7 have not sold windows 8 yet not a single copy.
From what i hear it flopped really bad sales figures are really bad and Sinofsky has now left MS so much for windows 8 LoL.
What they really should have done is make windows 8 customizable ui the way you want it not what Sinofsky wants it.

Microsoft's Sinofsky out after Windows 8 launch
 
Unless you are way out in left field somewhere you can clearly see Windows 8 will flop as least as badly as Vista did. Maybe worse. I'd be willing to bet Microsoft will bring back the "classic" start menu as an option in Windows 9. Maybe even as an update for 8 later on.


I strongly disagree with the above post that most people will love Windows 8 because it looks like a phone OS. Trying to use a phone or tablet OS never works right on a desktop system anymore than trying to use a keyboard and mouse work with a smart phone. Microsoft even after making tablets for well over 10 years still does not understand this basic concept. Thats why they failed with tablets years ago, they are failing at Win8 now and they will fail at tablets in the future.
 
andcorptech said:
Actually the "noobs" are like . WTF this is just like a phone. Awesome. Seriously, its the noobs and non techy users that actually love Windows 8.

Personally I dont like it, but in the whole scheme of things I, as many of you, are a minority.
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noobs? what noobs? Seriously other then grandma and even grandma has been using Windows xp for years now who doesn't know the Windows interface? The Windows market has been shrinking for the past few years. Everyone has a computer now. Sales are not to new users but to replace old computers and some who had a computer are abandoning them for iPads and the like. I don't know anyone that has a windows phone so this interface will be new to everyone that uses it. And it has to be something that they will abandon there iPads to get. Maybe if they threw this out there 3 or 4 years ago they could have achieved that. Not now. Microsoft as usual is late to the party and crying because we are out of dip.
 
gunslinger said:
Unless you are way out in left field somewhere you can clearly see Windows 8 will flop as least as badly as Vista did. Maybe worse. I'd be willing to bet Microsoft will bring back the "classic" start menu as an option in Windows 9. Maybe even as an update for 8 later on.


I strongly disagree with the above post that most people will love Windows 8 because it looks like a phone OS. Trying to use a phone or tablet OS never works right on a desktop system anymore than trying to use a keyboard and mouse work with a smart phone. Microsoft even after making tablets for well over 10 years still does not understand this basic concept. Thats why they failed with tablets years ago, they are failing at Win8 now and they will fail at tablets in the future.
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See there I think you are wrong. The start menu is dead. It will never be back. Windows 9 will expand and improve on what we have with Windows 8. Metro might get serious upgrades and changes but the start menu will never return as we know it.
 
Guys think about it for a second. Microsoft has a team of the worlds smartest developers. It was a rumor since the Vista and early 7 days that 8 would be a major game changer and would be a major revamp in the UI. Microsoft had a reason for the start screen. Just like any change, some people will be against it. How often do you actually browse the start menu looking through the folders? Never right? Usually you know exactly what you want and just search it right?

Microsoft is on to something. Though it needs work, but it's unique. Sets them apart. I like the concept of "Start" that they are portraying in their video ads. "Starts here."

In the meantime, I personally don't care for it. Some of my customers like it, some don't. It's a cheap OS. You can get the start menu back, disable the start screen and boot directly to the desktop, and make the Windows look more like 7. After is all said in done, it's basically 7, but more improved and bug free. I can use it to make more sales, cut costs of system builds, etc. I like it. Even at full $79 price, that's still half of Windows 7 cost.
 
gunslinger said:
Unless you are way out in left field somewhere you can clearly see Windows 8 will flop as least as badly as Vista did. Maybe worse. I'd be willing to bet Microsoft will bring back the "classic" start menu as an option in Windows 9. Maybe even as an update for 8 later on.


I strongly disagree with the above post that most people will love Windows 8 because it looks like a phone OS. Trying to use a phone or tablet OS never works right on a desktop system anymore than trying to use a keyboard and mouse work with a smart phone. Microsoft even after making tablets for well over 10 years still does not understand this basic concept. Thats why they failed with tablets years ago, they are failing at Win8 now and they will fail at tablets in the future.
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Whilst we all complained about Vista it sold over 400 million units so financially it wasnt a flop . And you can disagree about the phone-like comparison all you like but MS are not going to change it . I know that where I am , windows 8 is literally being forced into the market. There is not one major electronics store in my area that has a Win 7 Pc available they are all Win 8. We are still selling windows 7, and took alot of calls the fiirst week regarding downgrades, many of which simply decided they would try 8 first. To this date we have only had 1 downgrade take place. I have seen many non tech users embrace Windows 8 comfortably over the last few weeks and MS knew this will happen.

This is a new beginning for Windows, like it or not, they will not go back
 
I am so phucking angry right now! I just purchased Win 8 and a larger SSD to accomodate Win 7+8. I didn't want to but figured I have to learn 8 for the inevitable service calls.

I'm lost and I've been in the high tech arena for 35 years. 30 years ago they told me to lose the oscilloscope and soldering iron and learn keyboard skills because that's where computers are headed. I'm a hardware guy stuck in a software world.

After 30 minutes of screwing around with 8 I've got a headache. I've got so much to complain about I don't know where to start. Where is the freaking control panel? How do I change drive letters with disk management? Where is device manager? I need an email address to download an application? I wanted to update and I'm told they will be installed during System Maintenance. WTF!

MS/Sinofsky you screwed up. 18 years of a Start button albeit with different shapes and colors and you fools try to reinvent the wheel. If you were so concerned with Apple's tablets you should have pushed RT and left 7/8 the hell alone. Maybe have 8 ask if you are installing on a PC or tablet. This is akin to Dodge moving the steering wheel to the right side because that is what they do in Japan an we must remain competitive.

There will be a Start button. You watch. If not MS is finished and I'll quit this field and buy a Snap-On route or something.
 
Windows 8 is a real moneymaker. Have already wiped and reloaded 4 PC/laptops this week with Windows 7.

I'm sensing a bit of product rejection (I think Ballmer is too). The place to watch closely is Best Buy. They are stocking only Windows 8 machines ... they only had a couple of Windows 7 machines on-hand at my Best Buy when I called earlier this week.

I need to review MikeLierman's post on page 4 of this thread and learn how to make Windows 8 like Windows 7. That could also be another moneymaker off this Windows 8 dilemma.

.
 
Oh. And for control panel. I had to open Windows Explorer and I think it was listed in the drop-down list in the address bar. Stupid but it works.
 
Wheelie said:
Oh. And for control panel. I had to open Windows Explorer and I think it was listed in the drop-down list in the address bar. Stupid but it works.
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Thanks for that tip. I'm too ****** now but tomorrow I'll start Googling 8 and see what's what.
 
Whether Win 8 will be a success is still up in the air. But like many here, I initially didn't like it but felt I needed to learn it so I could service my customers. I installed Win 8 Pro as a dual-boot with Win 7 on my laptop. The plan was to use Win 7 as my regular system while learning Win 8.

After 10 days, I now find myself using Win 8 full-time and actually really liking it! I'm using it for all my normal support jobs, on-site work at customer calls, etc. There are some areas that I'm still feeling out, but must say that Win 8 feels quite a bit faster than Win 7. And this is on the exact same hardware (Dell Latitude D830, Core 2 Duo 2.5GHz, 4GB memory, 500GB 7200rpm HD)!

How was this possible? The Classic Shell free programs that allows you to make Win 8 look and work like Win 7, including a start button. (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/index.html)

I'm playing with the Metro interface, but 90%+ of my time is in the Win 8 desktop. Some may think it's cheating not to use the Start screen, but let's face it, it's designed for a consumer user, not a power user like we are.

Also, I've setup almost a dozen Win 8 PCs for customers and many of them have opted for the Classic Shell. Word's getting around and I'm getting new customers because of this.

Maybe not what Microsoft was envisioning (force us to use the Metro interface), but hey, you do what you have to do.

p.s. I have a couple of XP-era personal programs that when run in Win 7, would force the video into basic mode, but they run perfectly under Win 8.
 
Windows 7 is by far the best MS operating system they have released. Windows 8 is a tarted up version, they just added the tiled interface and removed the start orb. Funnily enough the guy who suggested to remove the start orb has now been sacked by Steve Ballmer.
 
pcpickup said:
The Verge has some more information.
"We're hearing that the executive shake-up wasn't based on any issues with Windows 8 or the Surface launch, but personality clashes within the rank"

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/12/3638118/steven-sinofsky-leaving-microsoft

And here is a copy of Steve Ballmers letter regarding his depature.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/12/3638174/steve-ballmers-letter-to-team-on-sinofsky-departure
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Yes ditto on the Steve Sinofsku

No one could work with the guy so for the best of the company he had to go. Lots of really REALLY good people left Microsoft because of him. So good riddance from what I hear.
 
Iv been selling alot of windows 8 to new users to computers or seniors. All they say is they want to get onto the email and go on the internet.

Windows 8 Done...its all on the Main WIndows. You just log in with your email address in the beginning and voila done. everything is in front of you. no more going to the start then all programs then getting confused...just click the tile that says mail...or internet explorer. done.

Now people that have used computers they dont like the non start button windows...they usually choose 7.

Its all what the customer wants....its just what you ask them what they want to do with their computers.
 
I'll be running and recommending OS X, Windows 7 and Linux Mint. Windows 8 has no real place and it does nothing better that any of the other 3 OSs I named. In fact IMO its several steps backward.
 
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