I'm guessing there's no direct download for the Win10 1709 update?

[YeOldeStonecat]

If you have a whole bunch (about 30) laptops and workstations brand new out of the box...usually unbuckling a bunch at a time we pull down Microsoft updates pretty well. But that big 1709 update for Win10...killing our internet. Not sure what it is...aside from 3 gigs a pop, even just 2 or 3 computers at a time is killing it. Usually we can have 10x rigs going full bore on updates.

But anyways...can't find a way to just download that patch (full offline version) to a USB and copy it to each rig to run and update without crushing our bandwidth for a week.

And don't even get me started on how much of a pain SysPrep turns out to be for Win10.

 

[Krynn72]

You can use the Media Creation Tool from their website to download an ISO file, then just copy the iso to each PC over your own network or whatever. Mount it just by double clicking it, and the installer will be smart enough to know the pc just needs an update rather than full install (which is almost the same thing anyways with feature updates).

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

That's all I've seen....just, always raise an eyebrow to something that's a full OS upgrade and why just no dedicated installer for 1709 (kinda like the old service packs). Ah well guess we'll give that a shot and hope it doesn't nuke the OEM Lenovo tools.

 

[Krynn72]

That's all I've seen....just, always raise an eyebrow to something that's a full OS upgrade and why just no dedicated installer for 1709 (kinda like the old service packs). Ah well guess we'll give that a shot and hope it doesn't nuke the OEM Lenovo tools.

It shouldn't, I do it all the time. In fact I've just copied the folders out of the ISO, put 'em on a flash drive and use that to update people's PCs so I don't have to wait on a download at all. So far I've never lost any data or application doing it this way.

 

[sapphirescales]

@Krynn72 is right on all accounts. I absolutely LOVE the Media Creation Tool. It solves so many headaches we had to deal with in the past. No more Windows ISO's to deal with, and saves a TON of time vs. downloading the updates.

 

[Porthos]

If you have a whole bunch (about 30) laptops and workstations brand new out of the box...usually unbuckling a bunch at a time we pull down Microsoft updates pretty well. But that big 1709 update for Win10...killing our internet. Not sure what it is...aside from 3 gigs a pop, even just 2 or 3 computers at a time is killing it. Usually we can have 10x rigs going full bore on updates.

But anyways...can't find a way to just download that patch (full offline version) to a USB and copy it to each rig to run and update without crushing our bandwidth for a week.

And don't even get me started on how much of a pain SysPrep turns out to be for Win10.

just copy the ISO to the drive and mount it and run setup. I never get it from windows update.

 

[fincoder]

That's all I've seen....just, always raise an eyebrow to something that's a full OS upgrade and why just no dedicated installer for 1709 (kinda like the old service packs)

I'm not sure what this comment means, considering @Krynn72 just told you there IS a dedicated installer...

Ever since Windows 10 was released there has been an installer ISO freely available to download and this gets updated with each new feature release (every 6 months). It can be used for upgrades (just like the old service packs) and for clean installs. Clean installs are quicker than upgrading to the latest build. I also download the stand-alone installer for the latest cumulative update for installing after each Windows 10 install before connecting to the internet. Saves time, download quota and internet slowdown.

 

[Sky-Knight]

1709 like all Windows 10 revision updates is an entire OS re-installation. If you want offline media, that media is an updated Windows 10 installation USB stick. Pop it into a machine and say upgrade, and off it goes, with or without an Internet connection. A 1709 USB stick will take Windows 10 1507 or later to current.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

I'm not sure what this comment means, considering @Krynn72 just told you there IS a dedicated installer....

As I referred to earlier, with service packs or other major OS updates...we used to download a dedicated patch (executable) JUST FOR THAT UPDATE. Never needed to download the whole OS just to update a service pack or other major update.
I love Win10 in many other ways...but I hate how it does updates.

Have slowly started using Win10 for our biz clients but in the past it's been just one or three at a time. This client is spread out in several locations and I'm doing all new EVERYTHING...new servers, Unifi network switches, Untangle firewalls, workstations, laptaps, docking stations, multiple monitors, new Ubiquiti WiFi, moving from SBS2K3 to Server 16 and O365 E1. A big upgrade of over 125 grand! I got a truckload of these Win10 rigs to get done, and the usual plug 'em in and let 'em update..somehow the way Win10 updates kills our dual symmetrical fiber internet pipe like pouring quick-krete on it even with QoS strangling winders updates.

 

[tek9]

As I referred to earlier, with service packs or other major OS updates...we used to download a dedicated patch (executable) JUST FOR THAT UPDATE. Never needed to download the whole OS just to update a service pack or other major update.
I love Win10 in many other ways...but I hate how it does updates.

Have slowly started using Win10 for our biz clients but in the past it's been just one or three at a time. This client is spread out in several locations and I'm doing all new EVERYTHING...new servers, Unifi network switches, Untangle firewalls, workstations, laptaps, docking stations, multiple monitors, new Ubiquiti WiFi, moving from SBS2K3 to Server 16 and O365 E1. A big upgrade of over 125 grand! I got a truckload of these Win10 rigs to get done, and the usual plug 'em in and let 'em update..somehow the way Win10 updates kills our dual symmetrical fiber internet pipe like pouring quick-krete on it even with QoS strangling winders updates.

Doesn't Windows 10 have a feature that allows it to update over the LAN similar to Dropbox?

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Doesn't Windows 10 have a feature that allows it to update over the LAN similar to Dropbox?

It appears to..our bench guy tried using it a bit...it's still painfully slow and we found that not useful. And these rigs have latest i5, 8 gigs, and SSD.
Made the USB tool from the Media Creater ...trying that shortly soon as I go through my morning routine at HQ here.

 

[Slaters Kustum Machines]

It appears to..our bench guy tried using it a bit...it's still painfully slow and we found that not useful. And these rigs have latest i5, 8 gigs, and SSD.
Made the USB tool from the Media Creater ...trying that shortly soon as I go through my morning routine at HQ here.

I typically make the iso then copy that to the machine you are updating and run the upgrade that way. You can do multiple machines at once and not tie up a bunch of USB drives.

 

[Krynn72]

I typically make the iso then copy that to the machine you are updating and run the upgrade that way. You can do multiple machines at once and not tie up a bunch of USB drives.

I do the same, but even with a USB, you only need it for the first few minutes of the process. After the first reboot (which is usually less than 10 mins after you power on the machine) you can remove the USB and use it on another PC.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Just got back from a morning 911 onsite...stuck thumb drive in, no auto launch, ran setup.exe and it prompts to "Install". Option to "keep files". No "UPGRADE" path.
ran it anyways since we have the restore from Lenovo...but...we'll see what happens. Was hoping to see an "Upgrade" or "Update" option..but nooooo...

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Upgrade completed all intact. Didn't nuke 'n pave.

 

[Krynn72]

Upgrade completed all intact. Didn't nuke 'n pave.

Welcome to the good life.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

So you guys actually got the wording of "Upgrade" when you run setup?

 

[Sky-Knight]

No, but you found the proper process.

Also, with GPOs you can configure WUDO (Windows Update Delivery Optimization), what this does is gets the Windows 10 stations to share updates, so only one or two computers download them from the Internet, and then the rest get them from the LAN. It's almost WSUS, but without much of the headache.

You can also dig into the advanced settings of Windows update to configure WUDO there. By default it should be sharing updates to the local LAN.

https://4sysops.com/archives/windows-update-delivery-optimization-wudo-in-windows-10/

 

[Krynn72]

So you guys actually got the wording of "Upgrade" when you run setup?

Nope.

But feature builds for 10 have never really been upgrades. They've always been full reinstalls with some magic to keep applications. If you ever have a problem with Windows itself, but they're not on the latest version, installing it will solve any problem that a Nuke&Pave would have. Even from Windows Update.

 

[Porthos]

If you ever have a problem with Windows itself, but they're not on the latest version, installing it will solve any problem that a Nuke&Pave would have. Even from Windows Update.

Not always but most of the time