How powerful is your test bench computer?

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Just been given a Packard Bell computer running Windows XP. It's a Celeron E1200 @ 1.6GHz with 1GB RAM and a 300GB hard drive and I'm just wondering if it's worth putting it into service as a dedicated testing machine, say with a suitable HDD docking station (anyone recommend a good one?) for testing drives and what have you. Is it powerful enough or not worth it?
 
Just been given a Packard Bell computer running Windows XP. It's a Celeron E1200 @ 1.6GHz with 1GB RAM and a 300GB hard drive and I'm just wondering if it's worth putting it into service as a dedicated testing machine, say with a suitable HDD docking station (anyone recommend a good one?) for testing drives and what have you. Is it powerful enough or not worth it?

I would upgrade the RAM and use it for sure. Bench machines do not have to be powerhouses. One of mine has an i7 with 16GB RAM...way overkill (I was given most of the parts for this machine and they were brand new...unusual circumstance...my brother gave it all to me for free). That said, this machine gets used to nowhere near its potential. My other machine is a used Dell Precision 390 workstation. Does the job well. Link to the docking stations that I use:
Front-loader:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0024CV3SU/ref=oh_details_o05_s01_i00

Docking station:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZDLATE/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
 
Junk it. That setup is slow and old and probably lacking ports or slots you will need and the PSU might not be able to handle a decent load.

Build something cheap from scratch that has some more recent features as you will be seeing more newer machines than stuff as old as that PB.
 
That's great, thanks very much Trusted :)

EDIT: And while I was posting that, NYJimbo gives the polar opposite view - don't you just love asking for opinions :D:D:D

Cheers guys :)
 
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EDIT: And while I was posting that, NYJimbo gives the polar opposite view - don't you just love asking for opinions :D:D:D

Cheers guys :)

At the least take a full stock of what that machine has. What its limits are (ram types, max HD size, usb port type, PSU connector types, slot types, etc) and then think about the machines you worked on in the past few months. If this machine falls short on many tests you might do then I would not introduce that machine into your diagnostic routine or kit because it will only limit you and slow you down.
 
My bench PC is a Core i7 980 Extreme Edition, 6 GB RAM and a 1.5 TB HDD. The system is dual boot between Windows 7 and Mint. It has eSATA and a USB to IDE/SATA docking station.
I know I do not need the CPU and RAM so much, but I would find a 300 GB HDD very small for some of what I use my bench pc for: Backing up HDD images/Data recovery.
I also use my bench pc for downloading drivers and looking stuff up online.

P.S. I got the CPU, RAM and Mobo free because of bad caps on the MOBO. Customer wanted 2nd gen Core i7 too.
 
what's more important for a bench computer, processor or ram?

I use a pentium D 2.66 mhz with 4 gigs of ram, but it has all the pata, sata, usb, ports I need. I direct connect drives to the system for AV scanning and cloning, seldom by USB. I boot into windows when necessary, but mostly use various boot disks or flash drives as needed. I have 2 1TB drives for storage.

How much time would I save if I upgraded to something faster?
 
what's more important for a bench computer, processor or ram?

I use a pentium D 2.66 mhz with 4 gigs of ram, but it has all the pata, sata, usb, ports I need. I direct connect drives to the system for AV scanning and cloning, seldom by USB. I boot into windows when necessary, but mostly use various boot disks or flash drives as needed. I have 2 1TB drives for storage.

How much time would I save if I upgraded to something faster?

That CPU must be hellishly slow at times :p


Myself I run 2 bench machines, both of which are the primary work machines as well for myself and my tech.

1 is a Q6600 with 4 GB DDR2 2 x hdd (320 and 1TB i think)
other is an E2160 with 6GB DDR3 (board also takes DDR2) running 2 x HDD 1 x 500 and 1 x 640GB.
As I am not in the shop most of the time, mine is the slower of the 2 machines and hence has more sata docking bays in it (it also has more SATA ports on the board, 8 in total) , both machines have a desktop dock connected to them as well though.

Graphics wise neither has anything special running in it,


Do you all use a seperate machine for working on things then, ie word documents, excel & general stuff that isn't testing a machine ?
 
My main machine here, is a Q6600 6Gb DDR II, 3 x drives, 1TB, 1 320Gb, 1 500Gb all sata. Asus p5k mobo, Radeon 4870

I use this machine for drive images, downloading drivers, client backups, you name it, its on here.

Used this machine, for close to 3 years now, and I am thinking of upgrading.. but to what I don't know. This has been one of the most stable machines I have ever built up.

Then there is the data recovery pc, which is currently running a E2160, 4gb DDR3, with ubuntu, and 7 dual booted. This one has all the sata bays, ide drive bays etc.

And finally the 'server', which is just a bog standard pc, running a couple of gb of ram, but holds 2 x 2tb drives, where everything (client related) is backed up from the main machine each night, also backed up online. This also holds my music collection, and tv shows downloaded - the media center up in the house, picks up everything off here, for playing through the surround. (Well it used to, till we put the tv up on the wall, and now I can not get anything to play through the surround, other than the normal dvd's. Sky and the media center just will not go through, and I cannot for the life of me think why :( ).
 
I use two machines for business, my I3 2010, 8GB DDRIII RAM, 1TB HD is my main PC I have at home. I use it for photoshop, email, web, tv and sutff like that but it does get used for a lot of general business duties but nothing client related.

In my office I have:-
E4500, 4GB DDRIII RAM, 500GB HD which I then use external drives to backup up clients data.

I also have an ancient P4 with SDRAM! which I use if I need access to IDE ports for data recovery.
 
I have 3 workshop computers:

1 Win 7 Dual Core Pentium E5800, 4GB DDR3 ram, 1TB hard drive - main computer for updating PCRT, emails etc and can run other workshop tasks if necessary

1 Win 7 Dual Core Pentium E5800, 4GB DDR3 ram which does most of my cloning, Fabs etc. Has a extra pci card supplying 2 sata ports and an ide port

1 HP Microserver that I bought recently with 8GB DDR memory and just a 500GB HD at the moment. I was goping to run SBS on it but decided to get my hands dirty with Linux. At this moment it dual boots with Win 7 and Ubuntu 12.4 and I run Virtual Box on the Win 7 partition with Linux mint at the moment.
 
I have 3 machines but the main one I use for this is a I3 2010, 8GB DDRIII RAM, 2TB HD . Serve its purpose very well and very much upgradable if needs be . I bought all of the hardware and build from scratch .
 
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I bought an old Dell PE2650 server to run in our shop, it came with 5 x 300GB 10kRPM SCSI drives so I thought it was a bargain at £150.

I promptly removed 2 of the drives replaced with 2 x 36GB drives to run the OS on, that way I have backup drives ready for when these 3 running in raid 5 fail.


It's way overkill for what we need and MASSIVELY noisy, but it sits in the cupboard and I downgraded the Delta fans inside it for some slightly less noisy ones.
but it is still very noisy.

I leave the cupboard door open at night and it sort of keeps the shop temps above freezing as we don't have central heating :D
 
my workshop machine is made from scrap parts gathered over the past couple of years parts have always been given to me as the customer has upgraded etc,

as it stands it is currently dual booting windows XP and windows 8.
AMD Phenom 8750
4GB ram
650GB Sata HDD
IDE Dvd Writer
an Old ATX Case which is at least 10 years old. the case from my old,old,old,old PC going back to Windows 98 days
 
Bench Test Computer:
Intel i7 920 overclocked to 3.0Ghz
Intel DX580SO Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 12GB DDR3 1600 PC3 12800
EVGA Nvidia Geforece GTX 560 Ti
2x Western Digital 2 TB Drives
1x Western Digital 500 GB Drive
1x Mushkin Enhanced Chronos SATA III 120GB SSD
ASUS DVD/RW
Samsung Bluray Drive

50in Plasma
27in Hannspree 1080p LCD
19in Viewsonic LCD - Vertical Orientation
19in Dell LCD
 
Do you all use a seperate machine for working on things then, ie word documents, excel & general stuff that isn't testing a machine ?

I would never attach a customers drive to my office machine. I wouldn't want to take the risk of being compromised or tie up that machine doing scans or cloning.
 
I would never attach a customers drive to my office machine. I wouldn't want to take the risk of being compromised or tie up that machine doing scans or cloning.


I do 90% of my bench work from 1 PC. This PC is also my Main PC that I game on, surf on ect.

Intel Core i7 3.20 GHz Six-Core, 32GB Ram, 1000 watt PSU, 3 network cards, ect hooked up to 5 screens. I run VMware for all my customers work. Everything is done on VM's, including "MY" image/OS (Windows 7 that I use for gaming). I can run multi machines (again VM's) off this one system and still surf, game, research if needed.

Sure, I have 2 other systems and 3 laptops within the house, but this is for personal use between the kids and wife.

The way I see it, most of the new systems out there can handle multitasking just fine and for the most part, we don't even come close to pushing them to their limits. With one system, I am using less power and less space.

For the record, I also have a NAS server running Raid with 2 2TB HD's backing up all my VM images (Linux, Windows XP, 7, server 2008 and what not). So at all times, I have at least 3 copies of everything.

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Here I am testing a VOIP system for a customer. The system sits to the left hand side.

Living in Arizona heat, in an issue. Running too many bench systems causes a lot of heat, which requires me to spend more on power for both AC and the cost of the systems. I find this to be a win win situation.

Why more techs don't work with VM's is my question!
 
how do you mount a customers drive to your setup for cloning or scanning? USB?

My bench computer is on my workbench, my office computer is at my desk. I do have VMs of XP, Vista, 7 and 8 on my machine for phone support and remotes. I find it to be easier to work in the OS the customer is using. I also have a VM of XP on my Mac Mini.

They are in the same room, but I use them differently.
 
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