Cheap latops rated for windows 10 no longer able to run without being slow

[Galdorf]

With all the bloatware windows 10 has now cheap laptops rated for windows 10 that were shipped with windows 10 can no longer run windows 10 without being really slow.

The problem with this is the laptops cannot be upgraded in any way even ram on these laptops are on the mainboard no sockets and hard drive is also on the mainboard ssd so you cannot upgrade storage space as well.

These were mfg before windows started putting in boatware even running an antivirus will peg the cpu at 100 unless you run a script to remove all the bloatware and un-install the AV also downloading updates peg cpu at 100 watching video on youtube stutter.

Lenovo IdeaPad is one of them most people just got rid of them the thing is once you install the new feature updates the laptop becomes unusable.

 

[sapphirescales]

What do you expect for $200? I mean, honestly...if you make a laptop with a CPU slower than a $50 smartphone and put Windows on it, you're not gonna have a fun time...

You either pay at the time of purchase for a decent computer, or pay later by having to buy a new one all the time. It boggles my mind that some people still don't understand this.

 

[Sky-Knight]

Those aren't laptops, they're phablets... and yeah you out grow them and throw them away. That's what they're for, and I hate the mere idea of them. Fun fact? MacBook Pros are like that now...

But Sapphirescales is dead on, you pay now, or pay later, one way or the other you will pay. Paying later just has the annoying side effect of also flooding landfills with junk. So it's not only hard on your wallet, but hard on the planet too.

 

[Porthos]

With all the bloatware windows 10 has now cheap laptops rated for windows 10 that were shipped with windows 10 can no longer run windows 10 without being really slow.

Sorry to say those non-upgradeble cheap laptops were sold new slow.

 

[britechguy]

Sorry to say those non-upgradeble cheap laptops were sold new slow.

Amen to that! And the whining about Windows 10 and ongoing changes to it doesn't change that fact. They were crappy to begin with and (like almost anything, even if it's not crappy to begin with or now) become crappier with age. 'Twas ever thus.

 

[Galdorf]

I have a quick fix for them though install the linix distro windows 10 UI so they will not have to learn a new UI.

The ones that i did ran so fast compared to windows 10 takes less hard drive space and MUCH less resources also with snap store installing software is a breeze just like the Microsoft store.

The speed difference is like night and day and you can set it to auto-update in the background does not even need to restart.

 

[Porthos]

I have a quick fix for them though install the linix distro windows 10 UI so they will not have to learn a new UI.

Until they need a Windows-based program and can not install it. Sounds like a support nightmare waiting to happen.

 

[britechguy]

I have a quick fix for them though install the linix distro windows 10 UI so they will not have to learn a new UI.

The UI is the least of it. The last thing I'd try to do is to shell Linux such that the end user would mistakenly believe it's Windows. The first time they try to do something they're familiar with in Settings or the like the jig is up!

 

[Galdorf]

Until they need a Windows-based program and can not install it. Sounds like a support nightmare waiting to happen.

Ever hear of wine? most customers only use it for surfing and watching videos or email anyways.

 

[britechguy]

Ever hear of wine? most customers only use it for surfing and watching videos or email anyways.

Well, if that's your experience, go for it. As for me, I've never had a single client who hasn't wanted or needed to install something, and pretty promptly.

 

[seashore]

I hope this has given a better idea on the problem faced.

Well you could have at least come up with something original and helpful, not just copied and pasted from malware-ridden sites.
@Kraken

 

[Mick]

@jackdaniels2202 What I don't get is - why are you doing this? What's in it for you? Or do you just not know which site you're on?

 

[seashore]

Post building till he gets the ability to share a dubious link?

 

[SAFCasper]

You either pay at the time of purchase for a decent computer, or pay later by having to buy a new one all the time. It boggles my mind that some people still don't understand this.

I'm explaining this on an almost daily basis. Most people just don't know what a good computer looks like because they have never experienced one. In their mind a computer is a computer.

My laptop is honestly one of my best sales tools because of this. I'll fire it up and show clients just how well it runs, feel the build quality, see the Full HD IPS display etc. Then I'll explain how it's actually 3 years old now. At this stage you would probably be replacing that £300 laptop if it hadn't failed already. Meanwhile, I fully expect my laptop to last another 2-3 years. Even then I will probably repurpose it to a family member for another 1-2 years.


PS.
My laptop isn't even that fancy. I would love to show them an XPS 15 instead. That would mean I own an XPS 15.
..... I really want an XPS 15.

 

[sapphirescales]

Most people just don't know what a good computer looks like because they have never experienced one.

And this is why when they buy a Mac they're blown away by how nice and fast it is. It doesn't even occur to these idiots that they're comparing a $300 laptop to a $1,500 laptop. "Oh, but I'd never spend more than $300 for a PC!" - Aaaaaaand that's why you have a crap PC. PC's aren't crap - you're buying a crap PC.

 

[NJW]

My laptop is honestly one of my best sales tools because of this.

Yes, indeed. My onsite laptop is a first-gen EliteBook 840, 2004 vintage, but most guesses put it at two to three years old – it was older than that when I bought it. I show them how the body is still complete and the hinges keep the screen in just the place I put it and it's still using the original battery.

The biggest problem right now is that confinement has played havoc with the refurb. market. Prices for me to buy have gone up by around 25-30% and the breadth of choice is much reduced.

 

[sapphirescales]

The biggest problem right now is that confinement has played havoc with the refurb. market. Prices for me to buy have gone up by around 25-30% and the breadth of choice is much reduced.

This. I can absorb these costs because I'm able to charge so much, but I'm sure there are a lot of people here that would have a hard time breaking even on a refurb with these inflated prices. I just called up one of my suppliers and they quoted me $280 for an E5450! $280!!!!!!! If I didn't usually sell them for $600 - $800 (depending on specs), there's no way I could afford to pay $280 for them. Before the pandemic I was paying $150 tops.

 

[NJW]

I just called up one of my suppliers and they quoted me $280 for an E5450!

My supplier only has ungraded stock of E5450 – the cheapest is 300 € (~US$360) and has a U/S Ethernet port; the most expensive is ~US$460 and 'only' has a couple of marks on the screen.

 

[Your PCMD]

Lenovo IdeaPad is one of them

Hrmmm. My Ideapad runs just fine and is my main on-site rig. In fact, I have 3 of them and got them for $269 each on a Black Friday deal. Has a Pentium Gold and I upgraded them to have a 1 TB SSD for storage, tools, etc. and a 500 Gb NVMe for boot inside along with 16Gbs ram. You CAN upgrade those machines if you get a specific model.

 

[sapphirescales]

My supplier only has ungraded stock of E5450 – the cheapest is 300 € (~US$360) and has a U/S Ethernet port; the most expensive is ~US$460 and 'only' has a couple of marks on the screen.

Man, that sucks. Thankfully I have really good relationships with my suppliers but I didn't realize things had gotten that bad. There's no way in heck I'd pay $450 for an E5450 even if it was "new old stock" out of the box, let alone with a marked up screen. If things get really bad I can always repair stuff from my bone pile, but hopefully the refurbished market recovers quickly.