Used to have good solder skills

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I know my part finding skills are lacking sometimes, as is the case here. I often don't search for quite the right item and get lousy results. Not so much for common parts, but for the occasional specific part such as this I can wander around a bit before I get there.

Finally found the correct part at a reasonable price with free shipping from Philadelphia.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133254348265
 
with free shipping from Philadelphia.
Do not always trust the shipping location. Farther down in the listing is
Economy Shipping from China/Hong Kong/Taiwan to worldwide 14-30 days delivered with tracking number sent from China

Expedited Shipping from China/Hong Kong/Taiwan to worldwide 5-7 days delivered with tracking number sent from China(DHL/EMS)

It could be a drop shipper type of listing.
Member since: May-05-10 in China
 
Do not always trust the shipping location. Farther down in the listing is


It could be a drop shipper type of listing.
Member since: May-05-10 in China
The proper context:

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Your quote applies to International Shipping. Item location is Philadelphia.

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Their estimated delivery to my location is April 27.
 
I hope it works out with no issue.
Jerry, I have no more trust in China than you do. Seriously! Unfortunately, the only source for some parts is China. Third-party resellers are buying from China and adding high markups to them. The one @Markverhyden found was $130! Newegg was similar to the one on Fleabay in price, but shipping was another $39, and still came from China. So tell me, where should I source this part from?

You've made a point of pointing out they've been on eBay since 2010...in China. So what if they have a few people filling orders from a small warehouse in Philly? Over-all feedback is good. No business is perfect and they've had 17 negative reviews in the last year and over 1400 positive reviews. Do you have a better option for me?
 
I actually have no issues with China except the Shipping times.
Well, I do have trust issues with China, but that's a separate issue. As for trusting a listed eBay item location; with over 1400 items sold in the last 12-months, it seems reasonable someone would have commented on a discrepancy by now. I understand your caution though.
 
Im ok with soldering but even that part needs a hot air station with a preheat base. Its too easy to overheat the board using standard iron, multi layer boards heatsink badly.

That part has 4 large pins but also 24 pins that are very small pitch.
 
Hot air would be the easiest, I don't think a pre heater would be necessary.... gradually up the heat and don't focus on any one area... move in small inward moving circles... rinse and repeat until the solder flows.

Tip 1 is to apply fresh, 63 / 37 rosin core solder directly to the existing solder. Use a knife edge tip, and be generous with the flux. All you want to do is get the solder to wet and take in new solder. The new resulting allow will likely flow much better and easier than whatever was factory.

Tip 2 is to be generous with the flux, at all times. Clean metal and enough flux makes the solder almost "attract" to the joint where it should go, and seriously reduces the odds of a bridge unless you just use way too much solder

Tip 3 knife edge tip with temp controlled iron. I use a hakko 936 clone that I bought for $30 some several years ago. Bought a pack of knock off hako tips and have since had to replace the iron handle once. $50 all in or so, for well over 5 years of soldering on and off. A properly sized and shaped tip, as well as proper temp control... just essential parts of any beyond basic successful soldering job.


The parts will sit through or in through holes. So all you need to do is get the old part out (which should be doable with the setup I've described) and clean it up well with some desoldeirng braid. Again, lay down more than enough flux and with the knife edge tip simply lay the desoldering braid over the area and place the knife edge down on top of it.... use it to "mop" up the solder. It should wick into the solder easily. I've seen folks with bigger thicker braid stretch the braid a bit, and it seemed to make the capilary wicking action much better. Then when all the old solder is gone, simply insert the new jack and solder down one or two of the heavier pins with the knife edge, good solder, and lots of flux. Coat all the big pins in flux, then just heat and apply solder. Once it's tacked in place, you can do the same thing with the smaller pins. Cover libearlly in flux, tin the knife edge and just drag solder across all the pins on both sides. If you didn't overload the tip, you should wind up with perfectly soldered joints all nice and shiny with zero bridges.

Using these exact same methods, I soldered a micro HDMI port onto a board without magnification. The pitch width of the pins on that port was TINY.... so I did use a chisel tip for that, and not the knife edge... you could also try the conical tip... I just don't use it for much.
 
Hot air would be the easiest, I don't think a pre heater would be necessary.... gradually up the heat and don't focus on any one area... move in small inward moving circles... rinse and repeat until the solder flows.

Tip 1 is to apply fresh, 63 / 37 rosin core solder directly to the existing solder. Use a knife edge tip, and be generous with the flux. All you want to do is get the solder to wet and take in new solder. The new resulting allow will likely flow much better and easier than whatever was factory.

Tip 2 is to be generous with the flux, at all times. Clean metal and enough flux makes the solder almost "attract" to the joint where it should go, and seriously reduces the odds of a bridge unless you just use way too much solder

Tip 3 knife edge tip with temp controlled iron. I use a hakko 936 clone that I bought for $30 some several years ago. Bought a pack of knock off hako tips and have since had to replace the iron handle once. $50 all in or so, for well over 5 years of soldering on and off. A properly sized and shaped tip, as well as proper temp control... just essential parts of any beyond basic successful soldering job.


The parts will sit through or in through holes. So all you need to do is get the old part out (which should be doable with the setup I've described) and clean it up well with some desoldeirng braid. Again, lay down more than enough flux and with the knife edge tip simply lay the desoldering braid over the area and place the knife edge down on top of it.... use it to "mop" up the solder. It should wick into the solder easily. I've seen folks with bigger thicker braid stretch the braid a bit, and it seemed to make the capilary wicking action much better. Then when all the old solder is gone, simply insert the new jack and solder down one or two of the heavier pins with the knife edge, good solder, and lots of flux. Coat all the big pins in flux, then just heat and apply solder. Once it's tacked in place, you can do the same thing with the smaller pins. Cover libearlly in flux, tin the knife edge and just drag solder across all the pins on both sides. If you didn't overload the tip, you should wind up with perfectly soldered joints all nice and shiny with zero bridges.

Using these exact same methods, I soldered a micro HDMI port onto a board without magnification. The pitch width of the pins on that port was TINY.... so I did use a chisel tip for that, and not the knife edge... you could also try the conical tip... I just don't use it for much.
Thanks for taking the time to share this.
 
No sure why everyone is talking about soldering that 24 pin connector. Looks like a ZIF/molex setup to me.
 
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If you look at the board in the second link the last picture shows it's soldered to the board. Not sure what you're thinking.
That shroud cover is a common type of cover to protect assemblies when being pushed into a header. But I looked at it closer and noticed the pinouts on the solder side are not squared up. One row was offset from the other so it's highly doubtful they made an offset header
 
That shroud cover is a common type of cover to protect assemblies when being pushed into a header. But I looked at it closer and noticed the pinouts on the solder side are not squared up. One row was offset from the other so it's highly doubtful they made an offset header
Ah, I see what you were thinking. Not in this case, which is why I wasn't excited about soldering them. @brandonkick wrote a nice walkthrough of what appears to be a very doable process for it. Since I was able to locate the board I won't have to mess with it.
 
Ah, I see what you were thinking. Not in this case, which is why I wasn't excited about soldering them. @brandonkick wrote a nice walkthrough of what appears to be a very doable process for it. Since I was able to locate the board I won't have to mess with it.

That's the nickel solution to the dime problem. Soldering those lugs wouldn't be too bad. But the header pins? Yech!
 
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