The company Jule "X" (whoops..Juul) got in trouble for targeting teens. It's been what's driving these changes in regulation, dunno how it ya missed it. FDA pressed 'em.
Ya, but if you actually dig deeper... you see it's actually nothing. Right in the FDA link you gave, you can easily suss out the BS:
They (Juul)didn't get in trouble, they were sent a nonsense
letter because of the current fever of the press's scapegoating and shilling for big tobacco, among other things.
As stated in the warning letter, the FDA has determined that JUUL has marketed its products as
modified risk tobacco products without an appropriate FDA order in effect. JUUL’s labeling, advertising, and/or other activities directed to consumers represent, or would be reasonably expected to result in consumers believing, that the products 1) present a lower risk of tobacco-related disease or are less harmful than one or more other commercially marketed tobacco products; 2) contain a reduced level of a substance or present a reduced exposure to a substance; and/or 3) do not contain or are free of a substance or substances.
There it is. There is the complaint. Read it over again. Let's go over it.
1)Lower risk - Well, every other country and agency that has actually done a study.. it is...
WHO - A Systematic review of health effects of electronic cigarettes (PDF)
Conclusion... In a simple product-to-product comparison most e-cigarettes are probably less, and some products may even be much less, harmful than conventional cigarettes...
A conventional cigarette is the most harmful legal product that exists and everything will seem “harmless” compared with it.
CDC:
E-cigarettes have the potential to benefit adult smokers who are not pregnant if used as a complete substitute for regular cigarettes and other smoked tobacco products.
Harvard Medical School:
Perhaps vaping should be viewed as a “lesser of evils” for current cigarette smokers. Still, it’s clear that there is a lot about vaping we don’t know. One way we’ll learn more is by people reporting possible vaping-related health problems to the FDA
Well, go ahead and look at your server logs because they've been up (FDA reporting) and operating since 2016! Likely the lack of feedback to the FDA is because there isn't a problem - and that conclusion is supported by the numbers.
Europe's missing 'vaping sickness' - Politico
In European countries like the U.K. and France, which have voluntary reporting systems, there’s not much evidence of this problem, and experts cite tighter e-cigarette regulations in Europe than the U.S.
“We have not seen anything like what we’ve seen in the U.S. recently in Europe, to my knowledge as a scientist, and I’m pretty aware of the field,” said Constantine Vardavas, the European Respiratory Society’s scientific relations director with the EU.
The entirety of Europe, my friend, and there have been "12 incidents of health problems with nicotine-containing e-cigarettes" over a decade for the entirety of Europe. Of those, none were serious or required hospitalization.
2) and 3)
Is the FDA F'ing high? Yes, it contains a "much reduced level of a substance" and is "free of thousands of substances" that would normally be found in a cigarette. I mean, this is a "duh" moment. Every study, man.
The "part about teens" is very misleading.
1. The visit to schools. During the congressional testimony 2 students said that a Juul representative told them vaping is "safe" or "safer" than smoking (it is). What they oft leave out is that that Juul representative was invited by the school as part of their "mental health and addiction" seminar and the 17yo 9th grader (WOW), who had problems prior, hence why he was exposed to the seminar.. was one of the testimonies in the hearing.
Bottom line: Juul was invited and attended a very small number of school functions (looks like 1 school so far).
2. The FDA complains that Juul is advertising to kids by the type of advertising they are using. The "claim" is based on this report (as seen in the FDA complaint):
JUUL Advertising Over its First Three Years on the Market - Stanford research into the impact of tobacco advertising (PDF)
It is a very "matter of fact" analysis. While it has a section about youth advertising, Juul doesn't seem to be egregiously marketing to kids... the biggest point is that "60% of kids are exposed to Juul via retail marketing - full stop. How many are exposed to beer commercials every night on prime time TV? The given evidence by our politicians to justify their 'faux outrage' is not supported by the report.
So, look over that advertising report... if you believe that Juul's marketing images are "horrible" or are market to kids, well, I could only conclude that you are against capitalism... or at the very least, biased solely towards vaping and not other things like beer, soda, or sugary snacks which are constantly marketed towards children (In schools, I might add) and are directly linked and responsible for 10's of thousands of deaths per year.
Oooooo... scary!
3. The last problem that lawmakers keep stating is that Juul has failed to gain FDA approval. Well, not for a lack of trying! Nor are they required to at this time! I know, crazy right?
First, scientifically and practically, e-cigarettes ARE NOT A TOBACCO PRODUCT. It contains nicotine of which:
The
Surgeon General of the United States indicates that nicotine does not cause cancer.
Nicotine use as a tool for
quitting smoking has a good safety history.
The
median lethal dose of nicotine in humans is unknown (In other words, you can't really die from it)
Because e-cigarettes are not a tobacco product, it wasn't until 2016 that the FDA extended it's regulatory jurisdiction (Overreach, IMO):
Until 2016, e-cigarettes were freely able to enter the market without premarket approval. The FDA announced its deeming rule that May which extended its regulatory jurisdiction over tobacco products to also include e-cigarettes and vape pens. The policy came with a requirement for existing e-cigarette manufacturers to submit applications by 2018, but then-FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb
extended the deadline to 2022.
So, manufacturers, including Juul have until 2022 to get FDA approval... as directed by the FDA. So the FDA wants to punish them anyways?
All of Juul's flavored and non-flavored products have been submitted to the FDA for approval in 2017-2018. They're waiting on the FDA which seems to be arbitrarily NOT reviewing and testing their product. That's not Juul's fault.
Juul's ingredient list is publicly available.
The FDA is
currently in the process of approving these, however:
So the FDA is happy to (likely) approve Snuff and Cigarettes that are know carcinogens and killers.. and even a Marlboro e-cigarette... pretty much anything "Big Tobacco"... but they won't even look at anything else. This isn't a biased witch hunt?
But regardless, until 2022, by the FDA's own rules... they get to shut the F up about it.
Now, to the most important part... this big hooplah about people dying from vaping... it's bullsh*t... it's admitted to be bullsh*t.
The CDC is still 'investigating' but the statistical results are in. Counterfeit THC products are the cause of the "Outbreak"(lol), not "Vaping". Here's the numbers:
12 people have died and 805 reported lung injury cases, over a 10-year period!
-- The 12 deaths are only recent and are attributed to counterfeit THC products. No products from dispensaries or legal channels have had any link.
-- Most of the patients (77%) reported using THC-containing products or both THC-containing products and nicotine-containing products.
-- Nearly two thirds (62%) of patients are 18 to 34 years old; with 22% of patients between 18-21. 16% of patients are under 18 years.
THC IS NOT VAPING
In fact, the problem with the counterfeit THC,
tests show that it contains vitamin E acetate which is a crude cutting agent that would seem to break down into a form of formaldehyde when heated.
So, if that's the case, and where the FDA, WHO and scientists are looking at illegal THC, vitamin E laced vapes.. why are we banning something that had nothing to do with the problem?
I thought this was the land of the free, where you have the pursuit of happiness. Where does it say in the Constitution, "We're the nanny-state and you can kill yourself to the tune of 100,000's or millions with alcohol and cigarettes... but this thing over here where we're having a real hard time finding any real down-sides... like weed or vaping... you can't do those"
'Merica!
Shooting people and bringing guns to school is already illegal.
And yet school-related gun violence and deaths is at an all-time high.
Trump suggested that Teachers should carry guns so they can kill their students. As of July there were 22 school shootings and there are more mass shootings than days in the year, this year.
Can't get the gov't to do anything with guns as it kills 40K people a year.. but vaping, which has killed ZERO people and illegal THC vapes that killed 12.. instant hearings and bans... all at the request of Big Tobacco and FDA corruption, ahem, lobbying
(2016- The Observer)Hot Air: Democrats Work With Big Tobacco and Big Pharma to Choke the Vaping Industry
(2017 The New York Times) Big Tobacco Attacks Sensible F.D.A. Rules on Vaping
(2019 Vice) Big Tobacco Will Take Advantage of the Mysterious Vaping Illness
But up until the past 6 months or so...the truth, or at least risk to your health..of uncontrolled vaping, hasn't been addressed. Discussion of the health risks is important.
Not true at all. The FDA has been "studying" vaping since 2007. In 2009 the FDA released a bogus report on Vaping products, unsupported by the FDA's own report. In 2010 Judge Leon grants an injunction to prohibit the FDA from seizing e-cigs. Etc. Etc.
Point is, it's been studied here in the US.. and much much more abroad in Europe.
A Historical Timeline of Electronic Cigarettes
If you want to really convince me vaping is "bad" to any kind of extent then the conclusion had better be more than "It could", "It might be" or "We don't know" - because that is all I can find on the "we hate vaping" side. It's unsubstantiated and the evidence to the contrary far outweighs an over-arching "vaping is bad" narrative... especially as compared to cigarettes. Sure, there are issues with some flavors (a small percentage of them) and I'm happy to have those vetted... but the base ingredients used in vaping seem to be relatively safe. 
