Staples Easytech prices

Not to thread jack, but here is my BestBuy story from a few months ago...
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It was late in the day, almost 4:00PM, and I get a call from a key client that their lone server is acting odd, possibly going down. I swing buy their office and see what they mean. Windows is spitting back any variety of errors and only boots for a few minutes before it BSODs. I pull the case open and start looking for obvious faults - it is an old Dell 400SC. Nothing stands out so I do some quick tests - PSU is o.k., RAM tests fine, boot drive is testing fine as well. Stumped, I pull the box offline, and bring it back to my office for more testing. I go to pull the Celeron chip that is in it and notice some bulging and leaking caps under the green fan shroud - uh oh. The Celeron powering the thing will not boot stably into my test system - again, uh oh.

So I call the client and tell him that the system is most certainly going down. His reply..."I need to be back online - tomorrow morning". I do not have any spare parts on hand that would get this old Dell up and stable so I offer him two options. I will go to Best Buy, the only decent big box store left in this area, and see if they have a suitable desktop box that I can convert into a small-office server. If they have nothing suitable, then I will loan them my office server while I get the parts to build them a new one. Client says great, does not matter which option I choose, just to make it happen.

Off to Best Buy I go. I get there and start looking down their display of desktops looking for something that would work. I am trying to stay under $700.00 for the desktop, but I also need something that will accommodate the client's RAID array. I quickly find two that show potential. Of course, it is hard to know how these desktops are laid out internally so I ask the first sales rep that stops by if he knows how many expansion bays are in each of the two desktops I am looking at. All I get back is a blank stare, as if I am speaking Greek. I try to explain to him what I want to know and he simply points out how many CD and DVD drives the system has. WTF? I am thinking as I scratch my head. I thank him for his time and move on.

A second sales rep comes by and asks if he can help. I tell him I need to know how expandable the two systems I have in mind are. He replies that they have plenty of expandability, "see, you can put up to 8GB of RAM in each of them."

Deep, calm, breaths...many of them.

I try again and am explicit this time. I tell him that I am looking for a desktop that I can turn into a small office server. I have a client's RAID array that I need to be able to fit into the desktop I buy, so I need to know how many drive bays are open in each. He pauses and then replies, "Wow, sounds like you know what you are doing."

More calm, deep, breaths.

"Look" I say. "Can you possibly open up each of these two desktops so I can look to see how many open drive bays there are?" He replies that "he would love to, but that the 'Geeks' will not let the reps do such a thing." I am getting tired and frustrated so I say pointedly, "If you want to sell a desktop tonight, you need to find a way to open these two up so I can look inside them."

"Hold on" he says as he darts off to the Geek Squad counter. When he gets back, he informs me that his manager approved him to open the cases. "Great" I say thinking that we are getting somewhere. "But there is one problem" he continues. "We do not have a screw driver in the store that is suitable to open either case."

Are you f'ing kidding me I scream to myself internally! Externally, I ask him, "what exactly does [he] mean?" "We do not have any screw drivers" he says.

"Hold on, you mean to tell me that in this store, with an entire Geek Squad camped out behind the help desk, there is not a single #2 Philips screwdriver to be found?"

"That is right" he says.

I ask him, "What exactly do your Geeks use to open the computers that come into the store for service?" He answers simply, "I have no idea. I do not even know if they open the systems."

It takes every drop of restraint I have not to self-implode at this point, but somehow I manage to keep it together. "Look" I say, "If I go out to my truck and fetch one of my #2 Philips, can we open up the boxes or not?"

"I do not see why not" he calmly replies.

Five minutes later I have both desktops open and found one that would work perfectly. "Oh, I am so sorry sir, we are sold out of that one" he replies when I say I want to buy one. You have got to be kidding me. "Seriously, you are sold out" I ask? "Yep" he says. "I should have checked first." You are darn straight you should have checked first!

I offer to buy the one I just opened off the floor. "Nope, we are not allowed to sell floor models." Again, you must be kidding me. I offer to pay more than the asking price for the floor model - no dice again. Sensing my growing frustration, or at least I hope he sensed it, he offers to go check the back stock in case they have one or two that never made it to the floor. Great, I could use a break I think to myself.

Not more than two minutes since he left me, he returns to say that miraculously, a customer had "just returned" one up front - unopened even. Wow, I guess I should thank my lucky stars!

As he is ringing me up, he asks what I do to "know so much about computers." I told him I run a technical consulting business that caters to the small businesses in the area; essentially I help with all of their networking and computing issues. He asks if I would work or anyone's computers. I said sure, I am happy to do so. Great he says and asks for my business card. As I handed it to him, I asked if he was referring me to someone he knew. "No" he replies, "but if it is alright with you, I would like to call you next time I have a problem." Sure thing I tell him, but then ask, "What about the Geeks here, don't you get a discount on their service or something?"

His reply was what made my night..."I don't care if their service was free even. I do not trust those guys at all."

Wow - that is one of the harshest "endorsements" I have ever come across.

In the end, the desktop I bought worked perfectly as a small office server after some internal modifications to let the entire RAID array fit and allow for adequate cooling. Even better, my client was ecstatic to be up and running the next morning.

A couple of days later I went back to the Best Buy to thank the guy who "helped" me - I left him a Craftsman #2 Philips screwdriver.
 
You craft a fine story JPS. Getting help at a place like that is a DIY experience.

Maybe we need a thread for all the funny stories that have come out from the times we've visited Circuit City, or called Dell technical support, or spoke to Microsoft etc.

Here's a quick one - from a call out 2 days ago. Customer has no internet. Spent 3 hours with technical support from his cable ISP (which is very large and is a major player, not some rinky-dink outfit). I arrive and there are no lights on his very old router, although all the lights on the rented ISP modem work just fine). Customer tells me he had him reset winsock, reinstall nic drivers from disc, turn off firewalls, reboot the modem etc. I can't believe in all that never once did the support guy think to ask if there was a router (conveniently located on top of the modem, which he had the customer reboot)! I sell and install a new router in 10 minutes, charge my minimum charge ($60) and head out the door.....

Oh well, another easy one for me.
 
You craft a fine story JPS. Getting help at a place like that is a DIY experience.

Maybe we need a thread for all the funny stories that have come out from the times we've visited Circuit City, or called Dell technical support, or spoke to Microsoft etc.

Here's a quick one - from a call out 2 days ago. Customer has no internet. Spent 3 hours with technical support from his cable ISP (which is very large and is a major player, not some rinky-dink outfit). I arrive and there are no lights on his very old router, although all the lights on the rented ISP modem work just fine). Customer tells me he had him reset winsock, reinstall nic drivers from disc, turn off firewalls, reboot the modem etc. I can't believe in all that never once did the support guy think to ask if there was a router (conveniently located on top of the modem, which he had the customer reboot)! I sell and install a new router in 10 minutes, charge my minimum charge ($60) and head out the door.....

Oh well, another easy one for me.

Thanks for the compliments. Your story is all too familiar. Remote support is a love/hate deal - esp when provided by a company with specific self-serving interests at their core, i.e. they only consider 'their' equipment. Regardless, great job on the call.
 
Think I will write a press release to combat this. Sometime like "Do you want the kid who was pumping gas a week earlier working on your computer or an experience and honest technician?"

Hey come on now....;)

I currently work part-time as a Staples EasyTech and this is our pricing structure (in Canada):

Diagnostics: $40
* We find out what is wrong with the computer and give the client a repair estimate. If the client accepts the estimate then we waive the $40 diagnostics fee and just charge for the repair. If they decline the repair then they're only on the hook for the diagnostic fee.

Tune-Up: $50
* Get all of the Windows + MFR updates. Start-Up Optimization. Junk removal. Etc.... This is also what we charge for simple software fixes such as "NTLDR is missing" and so on.

Spyware/Virus Removal: $50.
If there is a mild infection of adware (Antivirus 2009) we charge this.

Virus Removal and Tune-Up: $80
Includes removal of all infections and a full tuneup. Also includes fixing damage from the virus infection.

System Reload: $80.
Reload the computer and update it.

Data Backup (Up to 8.5 GB of data but I personally never count): $80.

There are obviously bad technicians everywhere but the stores in my district seem to do a good job.
 
Hey come on now....;)

I currently work part-time as a Staples EasyTech and this is our pricing structure (in Canada):

Diagnostics: $40
* We find out what is wrong with the computer and give the client a repair estimate. If the client accepts the estimate then we waive the $40 diagnostics fee and just charge for the repair. If they decline the repair then they're only on the hook for the diagnostic fee.

Tune-Up: $50
* Get all of the Windows + MFR updates. Start-Up Optimization. Junk removal. Etc.... This is also what we charge for simple software fixes such as "NTLDR is missing" and so on.

Spyware/Virus Removal: $50.
If there is a mild infection of adware (Antivirus 2009) we charge this.

Virus Removal and Tune-Up: $80
Includes removal of all infections and a full tuneup. Also includes fixing damage from the virus infection.

System Reload: $80.
Reload the computer and update it.

Data Backup (Up to 8.5 GB of data but I personally never count): $80.

There are obviously bad technicians everywhere but the stores in my district seem to do a good job.

What software do you guys use?
 
What software do you use? It's the same type of stuff.

The two official types of software are:
* Norton Technician Toolkit (Windows Diagnostics/Tuneup Software)
* PC-Doctor (Hardware Diagnostic software)

Easy there killer. :) Just a simple question.

Is it just me or is everyone uptight as hell on this site?
 
I can't believe in all that never once did the support guy think to ask if there was a router (conveniently located on top of the modem, which he had the customer reboot)! I sell and install a new router in 10 minutes, charge my minimum charge ($60) and head out the door.....

Oh well, another easy one for me.

He probably did. I used to do tech support for a major ISP some years ago. Half the time I'd ask the customer if they had a router, they'd say "whats that?" Usually you could tell by the 192.168.x.x private IP, but if they weren't getting an ip address or a self-assigned one it was hard to sniff out sometimes. I had more than one customer fight and fight with me insisting they never had a router, turned out in those cases it was the router causing the problem. Its a lot different when you are at the clients house as opposed to walking them through something over the phone.
 
He probably did. I used to do tech support for a major ISP some years ago. Half the time I'd ask the customer if they had a router, they'd say "whats that?" Usually you could tell by the 192.168.x.x private IP, but if they weren't getting an ip address or a self-assigned one it was hard to sniff out sometimes. I had more than one customer fight and fight with me insisting they never had a router, turned out in those cases it was the router causing the problem. Its a lot different when you are at the clients house as opposed to walking them through something over the phone.

I seem to develop an instant headache anytime i try to do this. "what?..." "Where is that?..." "What do you mean right click?..." LOL
 
This is an old threat and we were discussing that $30 was too cheap for a tune up, how about $0.00, nada, free!!! that's the new price. I wonder what's the catch?
 
pretty much, also working there part time until I get my business registered etc... in a PC tuneup they are supposed to run an AV scan off of norton and print a report, but not actually remove anything viruswise.

Especially ironic because most of the stores are pushing really hard at the techs to require a $70 diagnostic before doing a $130 virus removal regardless of if we know the issue, like say the customer describes antivirus 2009 clearly, they are still supposed to do a diagnostic before the virus removal (which generally in staples land generally is given up on for a system restore if norton can't remove it in one pass)
 
Ironically they're still getting more customers. It's all about brand, marketing and location.
 
I am a Staples EasyTech. I can't speak for the rest of the 1500 some-odd stores but we aren't all morons. Like any national chain with computer repair they want salesmen first and technicians second. We have never been instructed to do anything that is morally gray or unprofessional; in fact that would be grounds for termination if caught and reported. That being said I am sure that with an operation as big as ours there are bound to be problem employees and managers.

Ask me anything that is on topic.

Edit: I have heard about what Triad mentioned about pushing the diagnostic fees. My district hasn't come out and said it yet but that will probably happen with time. Middle management has numbers they are responsible for after all. That being said some people are more than happy to pay those fees. Not every one of them, but quite a few.
 
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.... Like any national chain with computer repair they want salesmen first and technicians second. We have never been instructed to do anything that is morally gray or unprofessional; in fact that would be grounds for termination if caught and reported......

But you are told to SELL, SELL, SELL, right ?.

Nobody is going to do a free tune up without trying to push something to sell. I know a customer came in a few weeks ago and a staples "tech" told him he needed a bigger hard drive so his computer would run faster. He had a 7200rpm 80 gig drive and the tech wanted to sell him a 500gig drive. The 80 only had half the drive space used. I checked the guys computer and it could not handle a 500gb drive without a bios update and the best he could hope was the cache on the 500 might be a little bigger. The tech never checked to see the computer was using 80% of ram and needed more.

So a free "tune-up" would have sold this guy a new drive, which he didnt need and a real tune up would have been more ram.
 
I know that Office depot only hooks up the machine and someone somewhere remotes it and then they run pc decrapifier on it for their pc tune up. People at the store don't do anything other than hook it up. lol!
 
lol staples is pushing to switch to the all tech work done remote as well as trying to sell people $99 remote assist contracts for virus removals.

I refuse to push that due to the blatant fact of any virus that's serious enough to merit spending $99 for a "just in case" contract, most likely isn't the sort of virus that leaves you a working internet connection.

Heh actually I get in trouble alot at my store due to not pushing norton (they apparently give techs a $4 bonus for each copy of norton they sell, not quite sure where the 25-80 cent bonus I get each week comes from)
 
There is no "catch" to the free PC Tuneup. We get it in, we run our toolkit (Norton WinDoctor, Norton Cleanup, Disk Defragmenter) and vacuum out the computer with an antistatic vacuum. The scan assigns some kind of rating to the computer's health on a continuum from good to bad based on if automatic updates are turned on, if theres security software that is up to date and has had a recent scan, if there is enough RAM etc.

Of course we are supposed to find something we can recommend to them to upsell. This is a business after all. Most commonly its telling people they need more RAM (it is rather amazing how many XP machines come in with 512MB or less.) Then if we see people without a comprehensive security program we try to upsell Norton 360 or Internet Security. It's fairly easy. But we don't bait and switch or anything. If we have recommendations for them, the work is not performed until they authorize it by phone or in person. If they don't want the work we hand the computer back to them and thank them for bringing it in.

My particular store doesn't have the largest volume of tech jobs, but I would say we do 15-20 tuneups a week. It really depends on how much corporate decides to do targeted e-mail advertising for it. When they decided to e-mail all the rewards customers about the free tuneups we almost did that much per day.

NYJimbo: I can't speak for how other stores operate, but we aren't all bad :)
 
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