/rant Windows 7 - the last Windows I'll ever use.

[GTP]

/rant
After 3 days of upgrading/installing Windblows version 1803 and having to listen to that awful cortana thing till I switch it off, go through and uncheck those privacy settings (OMG! What privacy!) I've come to the conclusion that I'll never, ever use this garbage myself!
It causes me so much ire and angst that I just hate even to look at it!

I'll stick with Win 7 till It just physically refuses to do anything! Then maybe move to Win 8.1 - maybe!

Linux does everything I need anyway - even gaming, but just some games I enjoy are not available for Linux - yet!

I'm just (sort of) glad that I'm nearing retirement. That cottage by the river looks more enticing everyday!
//rant

 

[frase]

I hear ya, IM off out in another room then hear blah blah wtf.. no STFU BUTTON! Is but is too late, HELLO HOW ARE YOU

 

[sapphirescales]

Your stress will be reduced tenfold if you just use images. I don't install Windows through USB anymore unless the drive is an absolute b*tch to get out. Cortana is just too annoying. I'd lose my mind, and my hair if I had to listen to that crap a dozen times a day. Not to mention that reinstalling Windows takes less than 5 minutes with an image, and all the software and most of the updates are already done when you pop in the hard drive.

 

[Mick]

I think the problem is MS's wish to infantilise its users. Failing to learn from the paper-clip debacle a few years ago, a new generation of gormless Seattle-based teenagers have now decided that, if they think something is 'cool', then you, the EU, is going to get it, whether you want it or not. All those pointless - and for some, worrying - messages that keep appearing, like 'Windows wants to know what to with something you just plugged in to it'; the teeth jammed-in reluctance to let you use anything except I.E. 12 (sorry - Edge); endless 'notifications' that appear telling you you've just done something or other (you already know that, right?); its insistence that they know better than you whether you actually want this or that particular 'upgrade' - they are all of a piece with its desire to treat you like a five-year old. And, as we all know, if you treat people like infants for long enough, then sure enough, they start behaving like infants.

Still - as the old song says: 'It all makes work for the working man to do'...

 

[Your PCMD]

That cottage by the river looks more enticing everyday!

You will share this location right? I just need to know where to bring the beer!

I just had a client that had the issue with Windows 10 and the black screen of death with "Diagnosing your PC" - for the 4th freaking time. It was an HP computer that I sold him that just needed a new HD, but now, it has Windows 7 back on it and he is happy as hell. And all the updates went smoothly

 

[Diggs]

That cottage by the river looks more enticing everyday!

Yes it does! Actually, my shop is a cottage by the Wisconsin river.

 

[Your PCMD]

Yes it does! Actually, my shop is a cottage by the Wisconsin river.

I'll bring the beer, you get the cheese!

 

[coffee]

Aside from the utter crap that win10 does, I worry about my business clients. I have a client with about 12 workstations and can you imagine that cortana going off all the time? Will be turning that off. Also, Other things worry me about driver issues still with scanners and printers. I hope they have that straightened out.

Im going to keep my business clients on win7 as long as possible! Which is growing shorter every day unfortunately.

 

[Diggs]

...you get the cheese!

You remembered! As a cheese-head I'm impressed! (Picture attached for our international friends.)

 

[cypress]

I've just learned to embrace Windows 10 because at the end of the day it is here to stay whether we like it or not. Six months ago I took the plunge to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my personal rig. Needed to do a clean install and it was more benefical for the games I was playing on my free time. No issues with it since. My wife's laptop has had some botched updates here and there and that is honestly one of the very few issues I have had. Any other PC I have came across has been inheriting an issue where they upgraded and usually a clean install is needed anyways.

I disable Cortana from the registry after I finish setting up all that is needed. I've even asked some residential if they know what it is and they don't care and want it off anyways. But my business clients are still on Windows 7 right now. That will be a talk come January of 2019.

 

[Porthos]

I've just learned to embrace Windows 10 because at the end of the day it is here to stay whether we like it or not. Six months ago I took the plunge to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 on my personal rig. Needed to do a clean install and it was more benefical for the games I was playing on my free time. No issues with it since. My wife's laptop has had some botched updates here and there and that is honestly one of the very few issues I have had. Any other PC I have came across has been inheriting an issue where they upgraded and usually a clean install is needed anyways.

I disable Cortana from the registry after I finish setting up all that is needed. I've even asked some residential if they know what it is and they don't care and want it off anyways. But my business clients are still on Windows 7 right now. That will be a talk come January of 2019.

Took the leap the day 10 was released. Have not looked back and moved all clients to it ever since. I have not seen ANY of the issues that many have seen.
I do all clean installs never upgrades unless there is an irreplaceable piece of software (rare for my home use clients). I also n&p all new computers right out of the box to remove the OEM additions.

 

[cypress]

I also n&p all new computers right out of the box to remove the OEM additions.

Nice. That is the very first thing I do on new computers as well. Back up and running in 20-30 minutes. Unfortunately something that couldn't be done with Windows 7.

 

[Porthos]

Nice. That is the very first thing I do on new computers as well. Back up and running in 20-30 minutes. Unfortunately something that couldn't be done with Windows 7.

Nothing like having an image, Fab's and SDI to make it easy.

 

[glricht]

... I also n&p all new computers right out of the box to remove the OEM additions.

I've wanted to do that for a long time, but am concerned about warranty issues. What happens if a H/W issue develops in the first few weeks? Will the OEM refuse to honor the warranty if the original Windows has been replaced?

(Had a customer last year whose laptop's keyboard failed after two weeks...you type an "A" and a different letter shows up. The OEM replaced the entire laptop and all was good. I'm wondering what would have happened if I had done a N&P and *then* the keyboard failed.)

 

[Porthos]

I've wanted to do that for a long time, but am concerned about warranty issues. What happens if a H/W issue develops in the first few weeks? Will the OEM refuse to honor the warranty if the original Windows has been replaced?

(Had a customer last year whose laptop's keyboard failed after two weeks...you type an "A" and a different letter shows up. The OEM replaced the entire laptop and all was good. I'm wondering what would have happened if I had done a N&P and *then* the keyboard failed.)

Win 10 has the refresh option in the OS that does basically does the same as a nuke removing all programs. They cant deny a HARDWARE repair under warranty. I could possibly understand that happening if you loaded Win 7 on a Win 10 machine due to drivers and the piece of hardware did not work with 7.

 

[nlinecomputers]

I've wanted to do that for a long time, but am concerned about warranty issues. What happens if a H/W issue develops in the first few weeks? Will the OEM refuse to honor the warranty if the original Windows has been replaced?

(Had a customer last year whose laptop's keyboard failed after two weeks...you type an "A" and a different letter shows up. The OEM replaced the entire laptop and all was good. I'm wondering what would have happened if I had done a N&P and *then* the keyboard failed.)

They could care less. So long as the hard drive is working they don't care what is on it. Why should they? So long as you can prove you have a real hardware failure that is all they care about. If they trade out the laptop then it is either stripped for parts and sold or repaired refurbished and sold. What is on your HDD will be wiped in any of those events.

 

[Altster]

Linux does everything I need anyway - even gaming, but just some games I enjoy are not available for Linux - yet!

My feeling exactly. That's why "I use Linux!"

 

[LostBit]

Then maybe move to Win 8.1 - maybe!

I'm on W8.1 since it came out years now. I like the way it feels for my own needs and expectations.

 

[Mick]

I'm on W8.1 since it came out years now. I like the way it feels for my own needs and expectations.

Blimey! I mean...just...Blimey!

 

[lan101]

Aside from the utter crap that win10 does, I worry about my business clients. I have a client with about 12 workstations and can you imagine that cortana going off all the time? Will be turning that off. Also, Other things worry me about driver issues still with scanners and printers. I hope they have that straightened out.

Im going to keep my business clients on win7 as long as possible! Which is growing shorter every day unfortunately.

Yeah a local business that I service has about 10 machines and all but 1 has win7 still. The boss's computer upgraded to 10 surprisingly fairly smoothly. I jumped in and stopped it on some of the other machines. They have a couple old school okidata printers that I'm not sure will work right using 10. It's all well and good on 7 so not a worry now, but I wonder if it will be.