AMD RX-480 and ZEN - AMD's come back move

[ohio_grad_06]

I figure if I want a better CPU, I can buy a new one in a year or 2, then plop my 1600 on what at that point. So far it's doing well though.

 

[GTP]

I'm still running my old gamer with the Phenom 2, 1090T "Black Edition" CPU (on stock cooler) I bought in 2011/2012?
Has 16GB of (generic, nothing special Kingston) Ram and a nVidia GTX 660 G/Card and a 2TB WD "Red" NAS HDD.
It runs all of the 220 odd FPS "shooters" I play at decent frame rates - Crysis, Crysis 2, Crysis 3, all Serious Sam titles including Serious Sam 3, Sniper Ghost Warrior 1 and 2, Wolfenstein "Old Blood" and "New Order," Section 8 Prejudice, all the Painkiller titles, etc, etc. with no problems.
The only games it struggles with are DOOM and Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3. I have to back off the "effects" to medium.
Looking at getting a 1050Ti or 1060 shortly.

 

[ohio_grad_06]

1060 6gb seems popular. I kind of want an 8gb RX 580. Not sure if either of those cards would be bottlenecked by your CPU though.

Edit..quick bit of research says that a 1060 would hit a cpu bottleneck with that 1090t. However, they say that the gtx 1050ti should be a good match. So if you can find a gtx 1050ti or maybe get a deal on a used radeon 7950, or rx 280 or 380, one of those should do ok with it for a year or two.

 

[GTP]

1060 6gb seems popular. I kind of want an 8gb RX 580. Not sure if either of those cards would be bottlenecked by your CPU though.

Edit..quick bit of research says that a 1060 would hit a cpu bottleneck with that 1090t. However, they say that the gtx 1050ti should be a good match. So if you can find a gtx 1050ti or maybe get a deal on a used radeon 7950, or rx 280 or 380, one of those should do ok with it for a year or two.

I can get 1050Ti on a special price ($190) so might go for one of them.
But then again, there are some great new FPS's due in 2018 so maybe I should just build a whole new system?

 

[ohio_grad_06]

190? US dollars?? If so someone is taking you for a ride. Should be no more than 140 to 150.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01M...050+ti+4gb&dpPl=1&dpID=51ip90ynHwL&ref=plSrch

That said if you are a general user, it's a good setup. If you are gaming on this box, then you probably need to think about a new rig. Word is that coffee lake comes out soon, so I would either wait for that to land, or go for a Ryzen box.

 

[GTP]

190? US dollars?? If so someone is taking you for a ride. Should be no more than 140 to 150.

Lol - I wish!
Unfortunately that's Aussie dollars! Normal price is around $250!

That said if you are a general user, it's a good setup. If you are gaming on this box, then you probably need to think about a new rig. Word is that coffee lake comes out soon, so I would either wait for that to land, or go for a Ryzen box.

I'm a big fan of FPS (single player) games, I don't do multiplayer, 'cause multiplayer SUCKS!
so to get the best from the newest ones needs good gear.
As I stated, Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 and Doom struggle on the present system, so any future games will as well.
Depending on budget, I'll look at Ryzen when the time comes, or maybe pick up a (cheap) 7700 when the Coffee Lake chips arrive.

 

[ohio_grad_06]

You could always go the route of picking up a b350 board and a ryzen 1200 quad and overclock it. Knowing that they will likely be releasing new chips anyway next year, then sell said quad on fleabay and grab a new 6 or 8 core cpu at that time next year.

Another option, if you are thinking intel, see if you come across any deals on say an i7 3770k or higher and maybe you could do something with that. Even like a haswell i7 4770k, if you were to overclock, should have a couple of good years yet.

 

[GTP]

Not a big fan of overclocking, so if I was going to do a new build for myself I would go for the Ryzen 1800X or i7 8650U or even a i7 7820X X Series.
Team that up with a [Motherboard] (research needed, I like ASRock and MSI) 16gb of G-Skill Trident Z ram, 500gb 950 Pro NVMe, 4tb HDD and a 1080Ti (if I can find one that the miners haven't found!) and of course a descent PSU.
I want it to last another 4~5 years at least so spend some money now and not have to worry about it.

Biggest hurdle is the OS. Windows 10 totally sucks and I'll be forced to use their stinking pile of pig swill if I do build a new system.

 

[ohio_grad_06]

1080ti seems to be available due to being top power hungry for miners.

Windows 10, eh, not bad.

As for overclocking, in times past, I may have been afraid to do it, but the last few systems I have overclocked with few issues. On AMD CPUs I try to stay as close to the stock voltage as I can while getting the most clock speed by bumping up the multiplier. As long as you keep it cool enough they seem to do ok with it.

 

[brandonkick]

Eh... 1080TI is an expensive card. I want my darn GTX 1070's back down around $350 ish!
Unfortunately, I am assured that just because I want it doesn't mean it's going to happen any
time soon.


One note about Ryzen... be very careful with what memory you buy. Buy a kit that is RATED
for the speed your looking for, and make sure that the memory maker didn't pull a bait and
switch on you. That is exactly what Corsair did to me. I bought the 3200mhz Corsair Vengance
LPX DDR4 16GB kit. The first kits were made with Samsung B-Die memory which is single rank
memory and is quite good at hitting it's rated speeds on almost any motherboard. Corsair then
decided to change to SK Hynix chips in the newer batches. I got a kit with that, and my board
wont post with anything above 2133 mhz so far and I'm on the most recent BIOS.

Really cheeses me off, because I made sure to see if this ram was compatible with my board
before I bought it. It was listed as compatible, and rated at 3200mhz. Well guess what, I'm sure
that is true on Samsung B-Die examples, not my SK Hynix chips.

Kingston SSD swap crap all over.

 

[ohio_grad_06]

Ouch on that. Wouldn't think Corsair would pull that. From everything I've read though, the memory situation has been getting better. I also seem to remember reading that Intel had tons of teething problems when they first started using ddr4.

 

[TechPJC]

I've always liked AMD.
Best "Value-for-Money"