xbox one..........

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So I have been defending m$ with windows 8, but more and more it seems they are intent on destroying themselves.. I really hope the xbox one flops.

Read the reception part of the wiki if you don't know what I'm talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_One#Reception

-kinect must be plugged in and on to use the xbox
-must connect to internet every 24 hrs to play
-games can't be traded or given away unless someone has been on your friends list for 30 days and then that person can never trade sell or gift that game
-kinect will scan for extra people watching a movie and charge extra (rumor)


Seems insane to me. I don't know why anyone would buy it, especially since xbox has the least amount of exclusive titles out of the three consoles..
 
JustInspired said:
Don't forget that you won't be able to play your XBox 360 games on it either! Good thing I'm a PC gamer. :p
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Backwards compatibility isn't that big of an issue for most people.

The bigger issue is them all but eliminating the used game market. Many people only buy games used (or the majority of them), simply because they can't afford to always buy new.

You can wait six months and then get a game at half price. I have bought quite a bit of used games, especially when cash was low.

The always online demand is another. The big deal here is the fact that your forced to do it, as my PS3 has been online every day since I've got it. I just don't want to be told that I "HAVE" to connect it. What happens when the net goes out? What happens when the xbox servers go down? What about the people who don't have access to broadband, or can't afford broadband?
 
I don't think the issues listed will be a concern to most people.

If you cant afford broadband or choose not to have it, then you would most likely not be in the market for an Xbox One.

I will have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Microsoft confirmed that you can turn the Kinect completely off if desired (normally it stays in a low power mode, and listens for the power on phrase).

I personally don't buy used games, as I only play a select few games and buy them new, but I understand this may be a concern to some people. It does seem like you can still get used games, but the publishers will have control of how it happens and the cost involved. So instead of owning the game, it is more buying a license to use it.

Obviously most of the changes are designed for Microsoft and the game publishers to make more money, but as a business person, I can't be mad that they are looking for ways to bring in more revenue from their products.

There is always an uproar when things change, but I also ready that the Xbox One preorders were higher than any previous system, so it doesn't appear to have turned off too many people.
 
dgiles79 said:
I don't think the issues listed will be a concern to most people.

If you cant afford broadband or choose not to have it, then you would most likely not be in the market for an Xbox One.
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I pretty much only play my xbox these days when charter dies.. Won't be able to do that, will I?

dgiles79 said:
I will have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Microsoft confirmed that you can turn the Kinect completely off if desired (normally it stays in a low power mode, and listens for the power on phrase).
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I'd be more inclined to believe that if they weren't patenting technology to charge you more for having extra people in the room during a movie.

dgiles79 said:
I personally don't buy used games, as I only play a select few games and buy them new, but I understand this may be a concern to some people. It does seem like you can still get used games, but the publishers will have control of how it happens and the cost involved. So instead of owning the game, it is more buying a license to use it.
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So do you just throw your old games away when you're done? Keep them in a box in the attic? Sell them to an "approved game trade center" for $1.50?
 
dgiles79 said:
I don't think the issues listed will be a concern to most people.

... I also ready that the Xbox One preorders were higher than any previous system, so it doesn't appear to have turned off too many people.
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Personally, I am choosing not to purchase the xboxone because of the used game issue and the connectivity deal. I don't play much myself, but my son does, so I buy many used games, and don't feel it is right to restrict the market in such a manner. The music industry tried to restrict used cd's years back and that backfired on them as well. Although the timing for them was admittedly bad, as digital media was just starting to take off.

Even though I am not one to do a lot of pre-orders or be first in line to buy a new game, I do by new games. Most of the time this is based on borrowing games from a friend for a short period. If I like it, I buy it.

With this new console, xbox has clearly sided with the game producers and not with the players. Pretty disappointing from my point of view.
 
compnet said:
I pretty much only play my xbox these days when charter dies.. Won't be able to do that, will I?



I'd be more inclined to believe that if they weren't patenting technology to charge you more for having extra people in the room during a movie.



So do you just throw your old games away when you're done? Keep them in a box in the attic? Sell them to an "approved game trade center" for $1.50?
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Unless charter is down for more than 24 hours, then yes you would be able to play it as the Xbox has to check in once every 24 hours. I don't think I've had my Internet go down for more than a few hours.

Microsoft confirmed it can be turned off http://kotaku.com/xbox-ones-kinect-can-turn-off-microsoft-says-noting-510100564

Like I mentioned, I only play a few games (Rock Band, Fifa, and COD), so yes, I basically just leave them on the shelf and never sell or trade them. I'm sure that may be different if I wanted to buy and play a lot of different games.
 
dgiles79 said:
I don't think the issues listed will be a concern to most people.

If you cant afford broadband or choose not to have it, then you would most likely not be in the market for an Xbox One.

I will have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Microsoft confirmed that you can turn the Kinect completely off if desired (normally it stays in a low power mode, and listens for the power on phrase).

I personally don't buy used games, as I only play a select few games and buy them new, but I understand this may be a concern to some people. It does seem like you can still get used games, but the publishers will have control of how it happens and the cost involved. So instead of owning the game, it is more buying a license to use it.

Obviously most of the changes are designed for Microsoft and the game publishers to make more money, but as a business person, I can't be mad that they are looking for ways to bring in more revenue from their products.

There is always an uproar when things change, but I also ready that the Xbox One preorders were higher than any previous system, so it doesn't appear to have turned off too many people.
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Our comcast cable bill was headed for $275 per month, the cost of the Xbox One is rumored to be $399. Seems like one could easily afford an xbox one without being able to afford (or wanting to afford) an internet connection.

Even being more fair about the cable bill, on average broad band connectivity is $60-$80 a month. In the first year alone you'd be spending more then twice the cost of the xbox hardware.

Personally I think the used game crap and the "charge for me people in the room" ideas are garbage. Used games are a big part of the video game user base and while I can understand M$ wanting their hands in it I feel they are just getting too greedy and it will end up costing them.

As far as the charging more for more people being in the room, well that's just downright greedy. These are both very, very tacky business moves.
 
brandonkick said:
Personally I think the used game crap and the "charge for me people in the room" ideas are garbage. Used games are a big part of the video game user base and while I can understand M$ wanting their hands in it I feel they are just getting too greedy and it will end up costing them.

As far as the charging more for more people being in the room, well that's just downright greedy. These are both very, very tacky business moves.
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Neither of these has been confirmed by Microsoft yet as far as I know.
 
angry_geek said:
Neither of these has been confirmed by Microsoft yet as far as I know.
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The trading/selling/giving of used games being highly restricted has been confirmed.

No backwards compatibility is confirmed..

Least amount of exclusive games - confirmed
 
Too after Microsoft's policies with windows 8 and office 2013, I would not be surprised. Certainly will not be buying an Xbox one. If I buy any next gen console it would likely be a pa4 when they come down in price. Though I really do my gaming on PC, so don't think I need a console. Haven't hooked up my ps3 up in 6 months I think.
 
Sony is looking like the clear winner in this generation of consoles. Atleast judging by my facebook feed which is full of gamers.

I couldn't help but wonder if perhaps Microsoft doesn't care about them and really is only catering to the younger gamers, the ones who have all had sexual relations with my mother despite their voice having the soft sound of a soprano to it ringing out with the same cuss words as if they had just learned them 5 minutes ago and still thought themselves clever for it.
 
I wouldn't say sony has or will win this "round" at all.

Nintendo is making a strong showing, it really hit hard with the innovation of the wii. I'm not sure all it's tricks are out of the bag yet.



As for me, I can't afford any of the new systems and even I could I don't have the time to play games really any more. But perhaps I'll start using my PS3 more!
 
I bet the majority of purchased games on XB1 are done digitally through the store. People are so much more likely to sell used digital copies of games, because presumably it takes much much less work to sell. You don't need to get up!! The only reason they are taking this stance in my opinion is to nip it in the bud now, rather than saying "Used games can be resold" when that is not something Microsoft can promise due to the nature of digital games and there respective licensing method. Steam does not allow the resale of games, and it is not hard to understand why. For all we know Sony is writing a check it cannot cash by guaranteeing the free resale of used games, when it is entirely possible that might not be the case come release time. After all, I do not recall at any point them drawing a distinction between digitally downloaded and physical copies.
 
Well, I bought one...... Oh dear.

Ok, I bought one, and boy, what a cooking mess they have made of it.

I hoped they had learned their lesson after the win 8 debacle.
Anyway, for those vaguely interested.

1. Blu ray player has massive lip sync problems.
2. No blu ray 3D play capability
3. No Dolby digital
4. No downloadable game demos.
5. Limited uk ondemand services
6. Unable to find my Linux based samba server.
7. Hand gestures on the kinect "glitchy"
8. Unable to boost the microphone input so it can hear me properly.
9. The One is designed to have a satellite/cable running through it, however there is no hdmi straight thru. So the xbox has to be powered up and running just to use the tv.
10. Limited graphics tweaking.
11. Ok, no backwards game compatibility.
12. Unable to change the menu background.
13. No start button (ok, I made that one up).

I really hope they start running off the patches, sharpish, because it is a big disappointment. At least mine didn't brick on initial loading, unlike some.

I expected it to have, at the very least, the same features as the 360.

That aside, forsa is awesome. I can't afford any more games though.
 
bertie40 said:
Ok, I bought one, and boy, what a cooking mess they have made of it. ...
I really hope they start running off the patches, sharpish, because it is a big disappointment. At least mine didn't brick on initial loading, unlike some.

I expected it to have, at the very least, the same features as the 360.

That aside, forsa is awesome. I can't afford any more games though.
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What?! No Wisecracks?!! :eek::eek::eek:
 
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It has two hdmi sockets, "in" and "out".

The xbox sits in between the receiver and the TV

It's just that, in order to watch TV, the xbox HAS to be running.
 
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