Windows 10 Creators Spring update.

So my wife's machine that I rolled back to 1709 a few days ago kept getting offered 1803 from Windows Update. This was annoying me, and since a Cumulative Update that supposedly fixed her Chrome issue had been released I went ahead yesterday and installed 1803 again from Flash drive and then ensured the update was done so she was running build 17134.48 just like me.

Everything seemed fine yesterday, but this morning the same old thing with Chrome and Cryptographic services just spinning like crazy. I found a number of people having the same issue and it appears that resetting permissions may fix it.

So I ran the Tweaking.com AIORepair tool just to reset permissions in Safe Mode. That then broke the Boot order somehow and her SSD was no longer marked as Active in Diskpart. Finally got that sorted out and now finally it appears all the Chrome issues are solved.

So think about Permissions if you're having weird 1803 issues.
 
Fascinating bit of trivia... 1803 auto-updated on my primary desktop, white box build, will be 6 years old in Nov.

It took 8 min...

Then I decided I might as well hit my laptop, it wasn't in windows update yet so I grabbed my USB and ran setup... that took almost 30min. A time period that matches a roughly equivalent Lenovo SSD equipped workstation that belongs to a client I'm testing on. Followed that one up with an old Optiplex 780, that one took 45min, and is happy too.

I'm not sure what was in that May update for 1803, but I'll be darned if I can find a problem with the units I've got testing it thus far.
 
Arghhhh! Got a gateway that had failed a 1803 update and I managed to roll it back to 1709. Everything was working honky dory. Created a restore point (System restore was enabled but there were no restore points) and after few reboots started 1803 offline update from Zalman. All running fine but it was getting late so I left it to finish overnight. This morning, the power button was flashing as if to sleep, so I pressed shift key and no video still. Force power off/on, nothing on video, VGA or HDMI. Gandalf PE doesn't sound like it's loading but hard to tell with no video still. Sure looks like a BIOS bork since I can't even get a POST screen. Is this PC toast?
 
Larry Sabo said:
Arghhhh! Got a gateway that had failed a 1803 update and I managed to roll it back to 1709. Everything was working honky dory. Created a restore point (System restore was enabled but there were no restore points) and after few reboots started 1803 offline update from Zalman. All running fine but it was getting late so I left it to finish overnight. This morning, the power button was flashing as if to sleep, so I pressed shift key and no video still. Force power off/on, nothing on video, VGA or HDMI. Gandalf PE doesn't sound like it's loading but hard to tell with no video still. Sure looks like a BIOS bork since I can't even get a POST screen. Is this PC toast?
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If it won't post, I would try removing the hard drive and see if it posts or boots to Linux CD.
When I do any big updates I always set the "power scheme" to always stay on.
It may have borked when it went to sleep.
If you still think it's the BIOS, re-set it.
 
Yeah, trying with the HDD removed was my next step. (I'm wresting with installing a new dishwasher at the same time, so haven't done so yet.*) A little hard to reset the BIOS with no video, if that's the case with the HDD removed. We'll see what we're dealing with with HDD removed after lunch.

PS - * ...and a new fridge that is 3" deeper than indicated by the WorstBuy sales rep, so it sticks out almost 7" from the counter and adjoining cabinet. Counter-depth fridges are very narrow and low volume; wishing for our old fridge back. :(
 
Larry Sabo said:
Arghhhh! Got a gateway that had failed a 1803 update and I managed to roll it back to 1709. Everything was working honky dory. Created a restore point (System restore was enabled but there were no restore points) and after few reboots started 1803 offline update from Zalman. All running fine but it was getting late so I left it to finish overnight. This morning, the power button was flashing as if to sleep, so I pressed shift key and no video still. Force power off/on, nothing on video, VGA or HDMI. Gandalf PE doesn't sound like it's loading but hard to tell with no video still. Sure looks like a BIOS bork since I can't even get a POST screen. Is this PC toast?
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I had a gateway in this week with the same issue, turned out to be a pci wifi card was causing it, look for any random cards in it, remove them. OR if it has avast on it disable ALL asw drivers, services, from a pe boot disc like asw.sys, etc. Then run sfc, reboot, uninstall all avast stuff
 
ell said:
I had a gateway in this week with the same issue, turned out to be a pci wifi card was causing it, look for any random cards in it, remove them. OR if it has avast on it disable ALL asw drivers, services, from a pe boot disc like asw.sys, etc. Then run sfc, reboot, uninstall all avast stuff
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No joy. Removed the WiFi PCIe card and the HDD: still won't post. Swapped the PSU on spec (old, dust-laden) but no change. I believe the MB is faulty, or at least the BIOS. Don't know how to reflash the BIOS blind. Thanks for the suggestions, nevertheless.

PS- I uninstalled AVAST before the 1803 update but didn't verify there were no residual AVAST services still running.
 
Larry Sabo said:
No joy. Removed the WiFi PCIe card and the HDD: still won't post. Swapped the PSU on spec (old, dust-laden) but no change. I believe the MB is faulty, or at least the BIOS. Don't know how to reflash the BIOS blind. Thanks for the suggestions, nevertheless.

PS- I uninstalled AVAST before the 1803 update but didn't verify there were no residual AVAST services still running.
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I had to disable all asw dills and services, at least half a dozen. Then run sfc from DART. The gateway I had to do a clean install after removing the pci wifi card with media creator loaded with 1803. Bummer it didn't work for you. Does sound like flaky mobo, you pull the cmos or jumpers, pull ram, any beeps at all?
 
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ell said:
you pull the cmos or jumpers, pull ram, any beeps at all?
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Pulled memory: continuous beep. Pulled CMOS battery (which had 3.29v) and left it out for a while and no change after re-installed. Tried one DIMM at a time in different slots, no change. It's dead, Jim.
 
Larry Sabo said:
Pulled memory: continuous beep. Pulled CMOS battery (which had 3.29v) and left it out for a while and no change after re-installed. Tried one DIMM at a time in different slots, no change. It's dead, Jim.
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agh, nothing worse than a old box that goes belly-up on your bench :(
 
I've got an old Dell 7537 laptop that's about 5 years old, and when last used about 18 months ago before going back to a MacBook Pro, it had an early version of Windows 10 on it. Would I notice a lot of difference upgrading to the latest iteration? Still need a PC for some things, so considering bringing it out of retirement.
 
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