Win10 1803 upgrade turns off restore points

[Haole Boy]

Aloha,

I upgraded one of my machines from Win10 1709 to 1803. Just discovered that System Restore Points have been disabled. They were enabled before the upgrade. Has anyone else seen this?

Mahalo,

Harry Z

 

[GTP]

Seems to be random.
I always check because I've had some turn it off (from being on before the upgrade) - which deletes all the restore points of course - to some being left on afterwards.
It is enabled by default if you do a clean install.

 

[JustMe]

I just checked the 5 computers in my location that had 1803 installed. All 5 had system restore turned off on all drives.

I had just checked to ensure that system restore was enabled on all these systems as recently as 4/21.

Thanks for the heads up, Haole Boy.

 

[JustMe]

Evidently it is a problem. Found this while searching...

Windows 10 April 2018 Update common problems and fixes
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-april-2018-update-common-problems-and-fixes

specifically this: How to fix System Protection disabled after installing Windows 10 version 1803
https://www.windowscentral.com/wind...s#fix_systemprotection_problem_windows10_1803

However, it appears that during the installation process of the April 2018 Update, Windows 10 disables System Restore again without notifying the user.

 

[MDD1963]

You would not normally desire to revert back to an older restore point , effectively rolling back the version...at least I'm sure that is their intent. (Not so sure businesses will like it, however; hope everyone has abckup images in case of catastrophic incompatibilty issues requiring some sort of rollback)

But, yes, all older restore points are indeed gone....(very 'nice' of MS to create one new restore point immediately at the start of 18.03, however...)

 

[glennd]

The clean installs I've done in the past week have all had the system protection switched off.

 

[wavey]

Just checked the 3 fresh installs here, all restore points active.

 

[sapphirescales]

Does anyone actually use System Restore these days? It seems the only time it's used is when some end user that thinks they're smarter than they are ends up using it and borking their system and then brings it in to me for repair. Maybe Microsoft is disabling it intentionally? What happens if you try to restore a restore point that was made in a previous build of Windows? I can't imagine that would go over well.

 

[Mick]

Does anyone actually use System Restore these days? It seems the only time it's used is when some end user that thinks they're smarter than they are ends up using it and borking their system and then brings it in to me for repair. Maybe Microsoft is disabling it intentionally? What happens if you try to restore a restore point that was made in a previous build of Windows? I can't imagine that would go over well.

Yes, I still use it, but usually on Win 8, 7 or earlier machines. Have not, so far, found a situation with W10 that needed it.

 

[Diggs]

If I remember right I thought System Restore gets turned on automatically with bigger drives and off with smaller ones. I know it is off when I use 120GB SSDs but have seen it turned on when using a 1TB spinner.

 

[cypress]

The clean installs I've done in the past week have all had the system protection switched off.

Thank you for the heads up on that for clean installs. I been making it a habit to always check that it is enabled. I don't use System Restore much at all, but I prefer it enabled.

 

[HFultzjr]

Off, on, it's all over the place.
As with all MS upgrades, I tend to check everything.
Never know what to expect..................LOL.

 

[Larry Sabo]

I've had weird problems that I could only fix by using System restore. I noticed mine was disabled after the 1803 update and have fixed that. Many innocent users will be denied a quick fix because system restore was disabled unwittingly.

 

[GTP]

Yes.

Every machine that leaves here has Windows System Protection enabled and configured to use an appropriate amount of storage, and with a fresh Restore Point set.

It's nice to be able to roll back whatever silliness happens after it leaves us, and even nicer to be able to point out that we were not responsible for that silliness in the first place. We've only had to do that a handful of times but the satisfaction is enormous.

System restore can also be it own worst enemy. I've seen more than a few cases where - as an example - a new software title has been installed. A day or two later client gets some weird hiccough, forces a shutdown, computer restarts but (automatically?) chooses a "last known good restore point."
Computer boots to desktop and the software title is gone along with any data that was entered into that software.

 

[MDD1963]

Just saw an alert today where some systems with INtel SSDs were getting caught in reboot loops after the update, but, there was an option to hit F8 pre-boot to revert to old build?

"...impacted users to roll back to Windows 10 version 1709, which you can do by hitting F8 during the boot process and restoring the previous version of the operating system. "

Is this 'restore option' to previous version still valid if it is deleting restore points?

 

[Your PCMD]

Cant say that I have that issue. Why? Because of the 8 computers I have on my bench right now, 8 of 8 wont even boot to the desktop after the 1803 update. They were brought to me that way. Boy this is going to be fun - but hey, job security right?

 

[cypress]

Cant say that I have that issue. Why? Because of the 8 computers I have on my bench right now, 8 of 8 wont even boot to the desktop after the 1803 update. They were brought to me that way. Boy this is going to be fun - but hey, job security right?

That's right.