no offense, but "any idiot could install adobe updates".....lol, do you look at the computers you get, c'mon, over half the systems we get dont even have sp2 if we're lucky, and i get jobs all the time after a "shop" has "fixed" a cpu with a new windows install, but they didnt even put in drivers, so the customer is now paying me to do the "true full reinstall" with all updates and adobe and what not......oh well, its just more business for me.