SilberCobra
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I cant afford new copy's of windows, I have ever version pirated in all-in-one discs, but how can i turn them in to oem with the use of the customers oem key? How do techs do it?
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Okay, so let me get this all straight here.
1.) You are a computer technician, but cannot afford a legal copy of Windows.
2.) You have a pirated all-in-one version of Windows
3.) You want to make it a legal copy by using one of your clients OEM keys.
Okay, every word in your post just screams wrong. I'm not going to haze you here though, that's just not what we do here. Let me help you instead.
There are hundreds (if not thousands) of Linux flavors out there, some for the more advanced users, some for specific needs, and some for the average everyday user. My personal favorite is Ubuntu and my clients seem to be very happy whenever I install Linux Mint onto their computers when they can't afford Windows. Plus with the addon support of Wine you can natively run many Windows software titles. So my suggestion to you is to get Ubuntu + Wine.
Another thing, please refrain from asking for help on illegal things like piracy. TechNibble has a strict no-piracy policy and you would be doing the community a GREAT favor if you would read the rules of our little forum here.
Oh, and to answer your question while yes you can use your clients OEM keys to make your illegal copy legitimate in appearance, it would still be an illegitimate copy as the key is not your property and will actually upgrade your crime from simple piracy to theft. I feel for you bro, seeing as how you've been out of work for about a year now, so please ignore what anyone else might say to you because this community can get a little rough here and there.
Edit: I also recommend that you throw away your pirated copies as they tend to contain viruses embedded in and download a legitimate copy. Downloading the operating system isn't illegal, but using someone else's keys is.
1.) You are a computer technician, but cannot afford a legal copy of Windows.
2.) You have a pirated all-in-one version of Windows
3.) You want to make it a legal copy by using one of your clients OEM keys.
Okay, every word in your post just screams wrong. I'm not going to haze you here though, that's just not what we do here. Let me help you instead.
There are hundreds (if not thousands) of Linux flavors out there, some for the more advanced users, some for specific needs, and some for the average everyday user. My personal favorite is Ubuntu and my clients seem to be very happy whenever I install Linux Mint onto their computers when they can't afford Windows. Plus with the addon support of Wine you can natively run many Windows software titles. So my suggestion to you is to get Ubuntu + Wine.
Another thing, please refrain from asking for help on illegal things like piracy. TechNibble has a strict no-piracy policy and you would be doing the community a GREAT favor if you would read the rules of our little forum here.
Oh, and to answer your question while yes you can use your clients OEM keys to make your illegal copy legitimate in appearance, it would still be an illegitimate copy as the key is not your property and will actually upgrade your crime from simple piracy to theft. I feel for you bro, seeing as how you've been out of work for about a year now, so please ignore what anyone else might say to you because this community can get a little rough here and there.
Edit: I also recommend that you throw away your pirated copies as they tend to contain viruses embedded in and download a legitimate copy. Downloading the operating system isn't illegal, but using someone else's keys is.
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keep in mind the best rule in software is to use software from "trusted" sources. Hacks can add code to the software to make the host computer open to attack.
Well, how did you get the pirate disc? Get OEM discs from the same source maybe and just burn them out? (I suppose you downloaded the first disc)
The other alternative is to install with a pirated version and try to use http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/selfhelp/pkuinstructions.aspx Although I think that will not work but worth a shot!
Good luck
The other alternative is to install with a pirated version and try to use http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/selfhelp/pkuinstructions.aspx Although I think that will not work but worth a shot!
Good luck
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As the others have said, your CD's need to be based off a trusted source and torrented versions are not trusted. Who knows what changes have been made to the operating system.
When I was first starting, I burned my friends and families legitimate holographic discs, just didnt copy their key.
On another note, even if there hasn't been any nasties ADDED to the 9-in-1 discs, its quite possible a lot has been taken OUT to make 9 OS's fit on one disc.
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sorry
What I meant to say is, I only use Ubuntu. If I use Pirated software it is only abandon ware (like games). what I meant to say is, what if a client wants only windows but I do not have their copy unless it is pirated but their system has an oem key, is there a way to use their oem to reinstall their windows?
What I meant to say is, I only use Ubuntu. If I use Pirated software it is only abandon ware (like games). what I meant to say is, what if a client wants only windows but I do not have their copy unless it is pirated but their system has an oem key, is there a way to use their oem to reinstall their windows?
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SilberCobra
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I have tested the disc's over and over with out using a key, there is a 60 day restriction so there is no cracks involved. the discs contain the main files of all but when installed only the files of that version stay on the computer. Nothing seems to be added, File wise.
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If it is a fairly common version of windows that you need to install (xp pro, Vista HP, etc) chances are you have a friend/neighbor/relative from whom you can borrow a legitimate copy. Borrow one of each and burn copies for yourself, then you will have them when you need them.
SilberCobra
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I got the copy's downloaded from a friend I trust, to put them together. He downloaded them untouched.
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So you want to use their OEM key on a downloaded copy of windows. Well in that case go right ahead. You can use an OEM cd-key on a non-OEM copy of windows as long as it's the same version (For example Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004 will not work for Windows XP Professional 64-Bit)
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Not always. Retail discs won't allow you to use an OEM key for most XP versions. Not that most of us use retail discs for the install.
The summary of the thread is that you shouldn't use downloaded copies. Legally, you're not supposed to make copies to install anyway, but that's something that almost everyone turns a blind eye to. Gather up copies of various oem discs from trusted sources and you'll quickly have the discs you need. You can even buy OEM discs for super cheap on ebay, if you can't find someone with the edition you need.
SilberCobra
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Thanks everyone
I haven't tried doing oem just yet, last question does vista and 7 work with all oem keys?
I haven't tried doing oem just yet, last question does vista and 7 work with all oem keys?
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Legally, you can copy the disks all you want. As long as you're using valid keys within the limits of the license of that key, you're fine.
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No, legally that's not true. It's just that people turn a blind eye to it, as I said. You're allowed one archival copy for your own use of discs, legally. And legally, per MS's EULA, you can only install from original OEM provided discs.
But...realistically, MS isn't that strict about enforcing it.
And of course, I'm discussing US law. Other laws may be different. I only know and care what is relevant to me.
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http://siia.net/
Here you got this site has the word for copyright on software. 14049752 is right about the law and about MS not busting people. Again like stated above this is the law here in USA, I did find my self a book of technet software the owner let me make copies of what I wanted.
Outside of that I do have copies of some other software that you can use to install just you cant use the keys. The majority of the time when you buy software your paying for the license and the RnD on it, hince why they toss free trials and let your download pretty much anything. Your not paying for the discs just the right to use it, and what it took to make it. (or I have been told by a adobe rep at school)
Here you got this site has the word for copyright on software. 14049752 is right about the law and about MS not busting people. Again like stated above this is the law here in USA, I did find my self a book of technet software the owner let me make copies of what I wanted.
Outside of that I do have copies of some other software that you can use to install just you cant use the keys. The majority of the time when you buy software your paying for the license and the RnD on it, hince why they toss free trials and let your download pretty much anything. Your not paying for the discs just the right to use it, and what it took to make it. (or I have been told by a adobe rep at school)
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almost all my reinstall disk have came from torrent sites.
Thats what you use the MD5 hash for. Who cares where it comes from as long as its a good copy.
The only exception to this is the latest copy of XP pro I downloaded is a slip stream with all the SP's and updates. That one was created by someone else and is not a true MS image. However, before i trust it and use it on a customers system I have it loaded on a VM and I am going though it with a fine tooth comb to make sure its OK. So far its brilliant.
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Ok, I sent vdub a message about this, but didn't get a reply...so I want to know...
How do you verify an iso is legit with the MD5 hash? I know how it works, you don't need to explain that to me.... What I'm asking is, when you download an ISO from a torrent site, then check the file...where do you find a list of legit MD5 hashes?
Like, who says the legit "Windows XP SP3 OEM.iso" has whichever hash?
Certainly you can't just download a copy, compare the hash you got from the torrent site and then think it's legit?
Is there actually a list somewhere, or what am I not understanding?
How do you verify an iso is legit with the MD5 hash? I know how it works, you don't need to explain that to me.... What I'm asking is, when you download an ISO from a torrent site, then check the file...where do you find a list of legit MD5 hashes?
Like, who says the legit "Windows XP SP3 OEM.iso" has whichever hash?
Certainly you can't just download a copy, compare the hash you got from the torrent site and then think it's legit?
Is there actually a list somewhere, or what am I not understanding?
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They used to be sent in the compressed file just to use to verify the file you got is actually without error during transmission.
Some software manufacturers that allow downloading of their iso's also post the mda5 hash nearby so that when your download is complete you may run mda5.exe on the file and check the code generated with a code placed on their site.
HTH (hope this helps!) If you need anything just call me monday, I'll in all day.
Some software manufacturers that allow downloading of their iso's also post the mda5 hash nearby so that when your download is complete you may run mda5.exe on the file and check the code generated with a code placed on their site.
HTH (hope this helps!) If you need anything just call me monday, I'll in all day.
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I know how md5 hash files work....that's not what I was asking.
I was asking, how you know the ISO you're downloading isn't modified with a rootkit or other nasties when you download from a torrent site. The hash listed for the torrent doesn't mean it's clean, it just means it downloaded properly. You'd have to know the hash from a source you trust, then compare with your download.
I wasn't sure if there was a list that you could reference to show that you downloaded a clean ISO. Larry at the forum we can't mention told me that you can look in the MSDN library and it will give the MD5 hash of all of the official Microsoft ISO files...so I suppose that must be what you would reference.
I was asking, how you know the ISO you're downloading isn't modified with a rootkit or other nasties when you download from a torrent site. The hash listed for the torrent doesn't mean it's clean, it just means it downloaded properly. You'd have to know the hash from a source you trust, then compare with your download.
I wasn't sure if there was a list that you could reference to show that you downloaded a clean ISO. Larry at the forum we can't mention told me that you can look in the MSDN library and it will give the MD5 hash of all of the official Microsoft ISO files...so I suppose that must be what you would reference.
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