Opera 10.0 Browser is AWSOME!!! SO MUCH faster than Firefox!

[tankman1989]

I asked another tech at my work who uses nothing but IE7 and IE8 why he used them, and he said because they are integrated into the OS. Is there a benifit to this? I personally use firefox. I am not picky at all when it comes to a browser.

I believe that the "fully integrated" aspect is what makes IE such a security risk, but am not 100% positive. If I remember correctly this integration makes exploits on the OS much easier and harder to deflect.

Can anyone support this view or am I mistaken?

 

[SThompson86]

I believe that the "fully integrated" aspect is what makes IE such a security risk, but am not 100% positive. If I remember correctly this integration makes exploits on the OS much easier and harder to deflect.

Can anyone support this view or am I mistaken?

I have never heard of that, but I see where you are coming from.

 

[MrUnknown]

the fully integrated aspect makes a bug vulnrable in more places than just on websites.

The thing is, Windows Explorer has had its bugs also that can be exploited. The kernel has its bugs that allow it to be exploited. etc. Software vulnrabilities are everywhere, it doesn't have to be IE to be the cause of it. So to blame IE as the source of all vulnrabilities is stupid. There are thousands of exploitable vulnrabilities in Windows that have nothing to do with IE or its integration.

I feel that so long that Microsoft is not trying to prevent the installation of another browser, then there is nothing wrong. I also feel that if you really want to impose this supposidly anti-competitive reducing policy, make it apply to all OSes that come with a default web browser. Why be selective?

I can't wait for Windows to ask you 500 questions when you start up. Which shell do you want to use? Which mail client? Which browser? Which file manager? Completely disable built-in ZIP support and install WinZip? Would you like to install Photoshop instead of MS Paint? Disable built-in ISO burning capabilities and install ImgBurn or some other software? Then you have 5,000 choices of different software because everyone and their mother want to get in on the list. Then if you aren't on the list you can sue Microsoft for being anti-competitive because they selectively decided to restrict your exposure, nevermind the fact that nobody has ever heard of your product.

The EU is stepping out of line to impose this. It will also not do anything to help the consumer.

 

[mekon]

There is no two ways about it, FF is a memory hog and every release seems to get more and more bloated; however I do a lot of website development and love the seamless integration of Firebug, Colorzilla and the Web developers toolbar, these three are worth their weight in gold for the amount of time that they can save me on a project.
It's true Opera is very fast but I find it very counter intuitive, interestingly I also find that people who are raving about it one minute are rarely still using it six to twelve months on, I don't know why. It can also give developers a number of headaches the way it handles certain font weighting.(this might have been addressed in the latest release)
In all truthfulness IE8 is actually a brilliant browser but after all the IE bashing I have done over the years I don't think I could face being caught using it.