No more free ninite pro..

[nlinecomputers]

But, nlinecomputers, even with a SAAS pricing model, there is no guarantee that a business won't go bankrupt. No matter the pricing model, many variables have to be taken into account before deciding to select a particular vendor.

Of course not. But if you plunk down money for "lifetime" you need to remember that it is THEIR lifetime not yours that it is supported for. I've never even heard of adlice software. But at least if I am buying it monthly and for whatever reason it doesn't work out then I can move on to something else. Nor is there any certainty that they will not be purchased by another company and all the previous agreements dropped. My RMM software of choice has been sold 3 times and once raised it rates TWICE in one year. Greed is really NOT the reason why companies are switching to subscriptions. It's support. End users expect software to be supported for ever yet they only pay for it at first purchase. The more people that plop down for this guys lifetime subscription the less likely he will be in business for long.

 

[seedubya]

The more people that plop down for this guys lifetime subscription the less likely he will be in business for long.

Exactly, there's a finite market for this kind of software and if you start selling lifetime licences you'll soon be fscked trying to support your user base as well as provide all those free updates and new versions. ANY business person should just GET this. There are NO free lunches. Somebody somewhere is paying. Malwarebytes used to offer a lifetime licence but not anymore - why? See above. The lifetime licences are sold to build a userbase and then switched out when it becomes unmanageable or gains enough traction.

BTW, when you say something critical of a person, company or product on a public forum it's the forum owner whose head's on the block if anything is libellous etc.

 

[cyde_ePhex]

@nlinecomputers "I've never even heard of adlice software."

It's the maker of RogueKiller http://www.adlice.com/download/roguekiller/

 

[NJW]

Maybe I'm just missing something....

(Here) We have chosen not to include these updates because Adobe already provides a free scup catalog for these products. You can add the Adobe catalogs from the Catalogs workspace by clicking Add Catalogs in SCUP 2011.

 

[CLC]

Please don't moderate this, I just want to say Duhhhh!!!!!

 

[pcpete]

I am assuming even though they do not have the $20/month option listed on the site, we will be grandfathered in. Autofabs and Ninite are hands down the two biggest payoffs to time for a very small amount of money. We probably save one hour per day at $80 with ninite alone, not even including we also have it running on 130 managed computers. $1600/month in labor savings for $20. If you are not using a program like ninite you are wasting to much money(time)

 

[nlinecomputers]

I am assuming even though they do not have the $20/month option listed on the site, we will be grandfathered in.

Yes, I was sent an email back at the end of January stating exactly that. They are making changes in both the product and the pricing. Going to offering a dashboard to monitor endpoints.

 

[MudRock]

@nlinecomputers "I've never even heard of adlice software."

It's the maker of RogueKiller http://www.adlice.com/download/roguekiller/

Also, was he not the invented of ADW Cleaner?

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[MudRock]

Yes, I was sent an email back at the end of January stating exactly that. They are making changes in both the product and the pricing. Going to offering a dashboard to monitor endpoints.

Which they've already stated that the dashboard will be a premium on top of Pro and likely be a per computer fee per month...

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[nlinecomputers]

Also, was he not the invented of ADW Cleaner?

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No that was Xplode

 

[MudRock]

No that was Xplode

Hrm. The guy who does RogueKiller did another platform that was bought out... I'll look it up.

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[ComputerRepairTech]

I agree, any monkey can update the latest version list.

You know its not just about the version list right? You don't really think all these apps just come with some command line compatible installer that doesn't install any junk software and always installs correctly even when running some system privs like many of us are executing from when updating through MSPs?

 

[Bryce W]

Then I guess hopefully the Ninite crew would be smart enough to offer a lifetime price as well. Kinda like Malwarebytes does since there an antivirus.. so quoted earlier.. Come on software companies a little common sense goes a long way..

Lifetime licenses are a bad idea in the software world. The reason why is they get paid once (and of course its a larger amount) but they have to keep supporting you. Ongoing support starts to whittle away at the profitability of that once off payment.

Would you offer a life-time package for managed services? You'd get a decent amount up front but eventually that'll get whittled away as you fix stuff to the point where you'll LOSE money.

This is why subscription has become popular and makes great business sense. Its great on the customer side too but thats another discussion.

 

[fencepost]

Lifetime licenses are a particular problem for apps on phones, at least on the Android side and I suspect on iOS as well. I have a ton of Android apps that I've purchased over time, many when they went on sale. Heck, I have a bunch of apps that I bought when they were heavily discounted for a short time simply in case I ended up wanting to use them in the future, which is why I have 3 different paid "Camera scan to PDF" apps. If and when I start needing to PDF a bunch of documents using my phone camera and deskewing software, I'll settle on one.

In a lot of cases there's not a good way for those app developers to do a new separate version and move people over to it to get an "upgrade" payment, and by this point that feeling of "lifetime purchase for $3" seems like it's baked into most stuff on app stores.

 

[ajgyomber]

Lifetime licenses are a bad idea in the software world. The reason why is they get paid once (and of course its a larger amount) but they have to keep supporting you. Ongoing support starts to whittle away at the profitability of that once off payment.

Would you offer a life-time package for managed services? You'd get a decent amount up front but eventually that'll get whittled away as you fix stuff to the point where you'll LOSE money.

This is why subscription has become popular and makes great business sense. Its great on the customer side too but thats another discussion.

I always hope to get lifetime when the developer isn't quite so popular and hope they convert to a SaaS model shortly after to stay in business.