Microsoft has published the minimum CPU requirements for Windows 11

But I think Windows 11 will load even if there is no TPM.

Well, since I've got a spare laptop now that runs Win10 just fine, that I don't think will pass the PC Health Test, I'll be doing an ISO-based upgrade attempt anyway when the time comes. All I have to do is restore from backup if it were to catastrophically fail during the update itself.
 
Wow, quite a jump up in CPU specs.
8th Gen or better?
My re-furbished have Gen 3 to about Gen 5 and everybody loves them with extra Ram and SSD
Hopefully I'll be retired by time Win 10 support stops.
Is this going to be the end of the Wally World and Worst Buy $299 specials. I can't see them having 8th Gen or better.
But who knows, maybe by then 8th Gen will be a dime a dozen..........lol
 
@HFultzjr My clients aren't much different. 6th Gen stuff is the cheap stuff now, 8th gen will be cheap in two years give or take, possibly sooner with an announcement like this driving replacements.

For now though, I'm setting my sights on 6th gen Dell Optiplexes, because this thing exists: https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=rf87d

Does it work? I have no idea... but I can sell an inexpensive refurb with TPM 2.0 in it.
 
Wow, quite a jump up in CPU specs.
8th Gen or better?
My re-furbished have Gen 3 to about Gen 5 and everybody loves them with extra Ram and SSD
Hopefully I'll be retired by time Win 10 support stops.
Is this going to be the end of the Wally World and Worst Buy $299 specials. I can't see them having 8th Gen or better.
But who knows, maybe by then 8th Gen will be a dime a dozen..........lol
I’m gonna bet that you can install Windows 11 on that just fine. It will not be “officially” supported but it will install anyway.
 
min req for win 11 8th gen or higher with tpm 2.0 that excludes hundreds of millions pc`s out there even excludes the surfaces they are selling atm lol.
while even cpu that meet the req some motherboards have tpm sockets but they are empty in some gaming motherboards.
 
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MS need to release a detailed explanation why they made this decision. If it's just an arbitrary requirement for little benefit then I'll be ******. However, if excluding older CPU's allows them to build a significantly more secure/faster/stable OS then it's a sacrifice I'm willing to accept.

Yes, it sucks systems only 2-3 years old now can't upgrade. But they can stay on Windows 10 fully supported for the next 4 years - which until a few months ago is what everyone expected to happen anyway. In 2025 those systems will be 6-7 years old which is a fair lifetime.
 
I feel that the current info will only relax more not increase.

Precisely. There will only be additional hardware that qualifies. They're not going to make it even more restrictive.

Right now the AMD APUs on two of my laptops are not on the list of approved CPUs, yet every other requirement, including TPM 2.0, is in place on those machines. I have zero doubt that, by the time Windows 11 hits the streets, these APUs will be on the list or, at the very least, will upgrade without issue.
 
My prediction is that, if you meet all other requirements, older CPU's will run perfectly fine on Windows 11. But Microsoft are never going to make them "officially supported" so they can save $$ on Dev & QA time. Plus pressure from OEM's for the sales boost this is going to provide.

We don't sell many refurbs but for now I'll be either:
A) Sticking to Microsoft supported hardware list
B) Telling the client to expect Windows 10 until end of the hardware's life in 2025.
 
My prediction is that, if you meet all other requirements, older CPU's will run perfectly fine on Windows 11.

Pretty much the same story as Windows 10. There are lots of machines out there running Windows 10, without issue, that were never designed to do so nor "certified compatible" by Microsoft. That's actually one of the "little miracles" of Windows 10 - the degree to which its hardware agnostic. Given the roots of Windows 11, there's no reason to believe it will behave otherwise.
 
I want to feel the same way, but something about this feels off. I'm not sure this is the Microsoft we all remember.

Time will tell.
 
@Sky-Knight

And while I can understand entirely why you (or any one of us) would love to be able to make definitive statements about how to future-proof the hardware, we just can't. These periods have occurred before, and even if MS is more rigid this time, the best advice at the moment is, "If you don't absolutely need to buy a new computer or computers now, don't."

As you said, time will tell.
 
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