interesting things hidden from most of us.

[Tony_Scarpelli]

http://www.wanttoknow.info/

I found this site very interesting, read when you have plenty of time.

 

[NYJimbo]

Why is this in General Computer chit-chat ? Do we really need a thread on conspiracy theories in this section of the website ?

 

[Xander]

Looks like they're opting for a .info domain because the TLD .crackpot hasn't been registered yet.

 

['putertutor]

I really get irked by these conspiracy theory sites and proponents. Nothing but a bunch of whack-jobs with too much free time on their hands, looking for their 15 minutes.

 

[compnet]

While I agree this could be moved to general, I dont understand the anger or derision..

I mean, do you think our media is not controlled?

Big pharma doesnt profit massively? Have the FDA in their pockets?

Mansanto(sp?) isnt genetically modifying food for profits at the cost of food safety?


Some of it is questionable, sure.. but I think writing everything off that isnt supported by fox or cnn as crackpot or crazy conspiracies is more dangerous than discussing it.

/tinfoil hat

 

[AlaDes]

Want some really good conspiracy nut jobs? Check out this site: http://www.coasttocoastam.com . Although I love the show's hosts (I have to believe they are rolling on the floor during commercials lol), I sometimes can't believe some of the far out stories some of the guests and callers share as "the truth" on live air (then again, it is aired late at night).

 

[Tony_Scarpelli]

I thought this would be a fun read, for some of my more enlighten friends, guess I had better keep looking.

For those interested if you read past the 10 page summaries every fact is hyper linked to specific public domain documentation and news stories that have either run once and hushed up or not allowed to run. So you do not have to take anyone's word just read the source documents. On the other hand if you are intellectually lazy then you are left overwhelmed or with disbelief.

 

[NYJimbo]

I thought this would be a fun read, for some of my more enlighten friends, guess I had better keep looking.

You might want to talk to my next door neighbor. He is "enlightened". He talks about chemical trails that jets make to control the population, flouride in the water to kill people off, mind control during speeches by the president, how 9/11 was caused by a suitcase nuke, how EVERYTHING that has ever exploded or caused the earth to shake was because of HAARP, how I should be buying gold every time it takes a dip because it will all be gone soon, etc.

Might as well go hang out at rense dot com and be afraid of everything around me.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

for some of my more enlighten friends, guess I had better keep looking.
On the other hand if you are intellectually lazy then you are left overwhelmed or with disbelief.

WOW...way to make friends here...basically saying that anyone that doesn't subscribe to you way of looking at the world, is "not enlightened"....or "intellectually lazy". For those that can read between the lines...he's calling us stupid/dumb. Less gray matter than him. Inferior when it comes to smarts.

Guess I better go get my flannel plaid shirt, greasy dirty John Deere had, and lose a front tooth.

 

[seedubya]

You might want to talk to my next door neighbor. He is "enlightened". He talks about chemical trails that jets make to control the population, flouride in the water to kill people off, mind control during speeches by the president, how 9/11 was caused by a suitcase nuke, how EVERYTHING that has ever exploded or caused the earth to shake was because of HAARP, how I should be buying gold every time it takes a dip because it will all be gone soon, etc.

Might as well go hang out at rense dot com and be afraid of everything around me.

This is exactly the kind of misdirection used by the mainstream media - tar them all with the same brush.

Speaking as a former nurse specialising in psychiatry your neighbour appears to be suffering from low grade paranoid delusions. That DOES NOT MEAN that EVERYONE that has deep questions about the mainstream military\industrial\government\media complex is deluded.

I have plenty of questions and know I'm neither paranoid nor deluded. The making of detailed theories, however, does seem to be dividing point between the "questioners" and the progressively deluded..

 

[AlaDes]

You might want to talk to my next door neighbor. He is "enlightened". He talks about chemical trails that jets make to control the population, flouride in the water to kill people off, mind control during speeches by the president, how 9/11 was caused by a suitcase nuke, how EVERYTHING that has ever exploded or caused the earth to shake was because of HAARP, how I should be buying gold every time it takes a dip because it will all be gone soon, etc.

Might as well go hang out at rense dot com and be afraid of everything around me.

I think your neighbor stays up extremely late and listens to the show I mentioned in my previous post, Coast to Coast AM. Ask him if he knows George Norry lol. Also, I bet he even believes in "shadow people" as well lol.

 

[NYJimbo]

This is exactly the kind of misdirection used by the mainstream media - tar them all with the same brush.

Speaking as a former nurse specialising in psychiatry your neighbour appears to be suffering from low grade paranoid delusions. That DOES NOT MEAN that EVERYONE that has deep questions about the mainstream military\industrial\government\media complex is deluded.

I have plenty of questions and know I'm neither paranoid nor deluded. The making of detailed theories, however, does seem to be dividing point between the "questioners" and the progressively deluded..

Where does one draw the line ? Who decides who is asking "deep questions" or who is just a nut ? Websites that dedicate themselves to "uncovering the truths" are almost always for the nuts.

 

[NYJimbo]

I think your neighbor stays up extremely late and listens to the show I mentioned in my previous post, Coast to Coast AM. Ask him if he knows George Norry lol. Also, I bet he even believes in "shadow people" as well lol.

He honestly believes that some of us have microchips in our bodies that were implanted when we went for various surgical procedures throughout our lives. He thinks that his brother might have a chip in his neck because he went for neck surgery a couple years ago and has been "acting strange" ever since he came out of the hospital.

Many conspiracy nuts see much more than is really out there. Like a couple weeks ago when Alex Jones was on Piers Morgan the next day he put out a rant saying that Bloombergs mafia was following him around talking into their jacket collar microphones and men with guns under their jackets were eyeballing him.

I have a customer who wanted me to scan his laptop for "bugs". He thought someone put a bug in his computer when he was away on vacation. Turns out he was just infected from surfing too much porn (I'm told that it is possible to surf too much porn, not sure if thats true, might be a conspiracy of the anti-porn people).

 

[nlinecomputers]

I'm a bit of a 9/11 skeptic. Simple physics tells you that we don't have the full picture. 110 story steel frame buildings with only 10% damage from a kerosene fire can't possibly fall down through the path of most resistance and pulverize themselves at just slightly less then free fall speed. Yet that is what happened.

But there is a lot of BS in the 911 truther movement as well. There are nut jobs that claim there were missiles and holograms or nukes used. Or no plane struck the pentagon yet bodies and debris were found there. Total wackjob stuff.

 

[nlinecomputers]

I think your neighbor stays up extremely late and listens to the show I mentioned in my previous post, Coast to Coast AM. Ask him if he knows George Norry lol. Also, I bet he even believes in "shadow people" as well lol.

Years ago I worked graveyard shift in a 24 hour C-store. Used to listen to Art Bell, he started that show. I think he is dead now or maybe just retired. His health was bad if I recall correctly. Total whackjob stuff but fun to listen to.

 

[NYJimbo]

I'm a bit of a 9/11 skeptic. Simple physics tells you that we don't have the full picture. 110 story steel frame buildings with only 10% damage from a kerosene fire can't possibly fall down through the path of most resistance and pulverize themselves at just slightly less then free fall speed. Yet that is what happened.

Ok, I dont want to get into this deeply but I will go this far.

Its not "kerosene", you shouldnt play down the intensity of burning modern jet fuel.

It's not 10% damage causing 100% failure, its critical to understand the design of the building.

It was not a STEEL FRAME BUILDING, not a frame everyone is used to.
The towers were designed with a new exoskeleton support system, not a standard box type.

The towers were designed to survive an impact from a 707 (conspiracy theory people say 747, that is wrong, the 747 didnt exist when the towers were designed.). What hit was Boeing 767's. Now conspiracy people say the 707 and the 767 arent much different, just faster, more passengers. It is different. If you know anything about ballisitics, compare a .22 pellet gun with a .22 rifle. Just the "ballistic" differences of the 707 and 767 are enough.

The heat from the fire did NOT melt the steel, it softened the support braces. The softening caused the metal to warp and the critical support areas collapsed on one floor causing the weight of that floor to be placed onto the next floor below it. It was not a gentle placement of the weight either, it was a drop of the floor onto the next. The lower floor is not designed to take not only twice the weight of the above floor but ALL the floors above it as the upper floors now collapsed inward due to the exoskeleton design.

Once the first collapse occured the building could not possibly survive, all the floors above began to collapse onto the next floor and the weight plus impact of the collapse caused each floor to collapse. The collapse was near vertical due to the design of the building and how previous floors were collapsing causing the exoskeletion to flop inwards from the top down.

I worked in WTC1 for a few years. You could not put bombs or thermite or anything in the walls, the walls were so thin and there was so little in between the windows. Nobody could have designed something in 1966 to be set off in 2001 without hundreds if not thousands of people knowing. To this day only a handful of nut jobs claim to "know something" about bombs.

That's all I am going to say, I know that there are all kinds of weird theories and each has been proven to be wrong but people don't want to let it go.

I guess people need to find something to do with their free time and I guess this is one of those things.

 

[compnet]

I'm a bit of a 9/11 skeptic. Simple physics tells you that we don't have the full picture. 110 story steel frame buildings with only 10% damage from a kerosene fire can't possibly fall down through the path of most resistance and pulverize themselves at just slightly less then free fall speed. Yet that is what happened.

Exactly.. was thinking of how to word that last night.. sooo 70-80 undamaged stories that could support itself and the 30 stories above through fire, earthquakes, high winds, etc, crumbles completely because of a fire above it? To me its like chopping down a tree and having the entire thing fall straight down and turn into sawdust on the way..

Call me a nutjob, crackpot, whatever, the 9/11 comission spent years of man hours researching and studying it and their answer is "we cant fully explain it." So go ahead with your couple hours research and popular mechanics half ass debunking and tell me Im a conspiracy nut.

 

[Cornerstone Technologies]

Want some really good conspiracy nut jobs? Check out this site: http://www.coasttocoastam.com . Although I love the show's hosts (I have to believe they are rolling on the floor during commercials lol), I sometimes can't believe some of the far out stories some of the guests and callers share as "the truth" on live air (then again, it is aired late at night).

Ive listened to this for about ten years and can't believe most of the bull that comes from this show. It is entertaining, however.

 

[compnet]

Exoskeleton? How are 47 basement to top floor support beams throughout an exoskeleton?

Go watch the collapse and tell me thats what happened.. a sudden jolt of a floor dropping, followed by top down "inward flopping"

 

[NYJimbo]

Exoskeleton? How are 47 basement to top floor support beams throughout an exoskeleton?

Go watch the collapse and tell me thats what happened.. a sudden jolt of a floor dropping, followed by top down "inward flopping"

You will never understand what you are watching and you only want to believe there is something out there that doesn't exist.

Its a shame really because if you pay attention you will see what happened. I guess this is more fun for you.