Inspiron 7777 aio wait for two hours to login

[Rigo]

Brought the computer back to the shop to clone the drive to a new one.
Booting up from the clone or the original drive I get the same message that login is disabled due to multiple shutdown or something similar. Not saying that the PIN is incorrect but disabled.
Never had that from hdd replacement to the same computer.
Win10 but secure boot is on in bios, wonder whether that could be the source of the problem. Don't want to restart to try disabling it then have to wait again if not the fix.

 

[Porthos]

Brought the computer back to the shop to clone the drive to a new one.

If the clone won't work, I'm sorry. I move on to data backup and clean install. I don't go down rabbit holes since I do flat rate.

 

[seashore]

Booting up from the clone or the original drive I get the same message

PCunlocker is your friend.

 

[Rigo]

clone won't work

clone works, just some odd security blockage

 

[Rigo]

PCunlocker is your friend.

The PIN is not rejected so it's correct

 

[seashore]

The PIN is not rejected so it's correct

You can't use the PIN.
If you know the password, use it.
If you don't, use PCunlocker.

 

[Diggs]

Did you possibly clone this from a drive in sleep mode?

 

[Markverhyden]

How long did you leave it powered up on that screen?

 

[Porthos]

Fast Start strikes again.

 

[Metanis]

I'd be inclined to think the device was waiting to reboot after an OS update and instead went into hibernation. I'd interrupt the startup routine 3 or 4 times until it offers the boot repair menu and then try and get it to startup in Safe Mode. Then uninstall the latest update and try to boot normally again.

 

[Rigo]

know the password, use it

There was no option to use a password even though the message seemed to offer it.
PIN or two hours wait, by the way the blockage did get lifted after serving the required wait.
For someone trying to resolve a problem this is really a killer
I can't really see the usefulness of that time blockage for someone who has physical access to the computer.
Also the reasons for triggering it seem odd, multiple shutdowns?

 

[Rigo]

clone this from a drive in sleep mode

I correctly shutdown the computer before disconnecting the power cord.

 

[Rigo]

How long did you leave it powered up on that screen?

Restarting didn't help.
I ended up giving it two and a half hours and the block was lifted.

 

[Rigo]

Fast Start strikes again.

I thought of that too but couldn't do anything about it until fully in Windows.
I made sure to disable it as soon as I got in.

 

[Rigo]

I'd be inclined to think the device was waiting to reboot after an OS update and instead went into hibernation. I'd interrupt the startup routine 3 or 4 times until it offers the boot repair menu and then try and get it to startup in Safe Mode. Then uninstall the latest update and try to boot normally again.

The shutdown process did not indicate pending restart from updates. Usually there would be a flag indicating that.

 

[Porthos]

When fast start is enabled in Windows, shutting down does not actually shut it down.

 

[Markverhyden]

Restarting didn't help.
I ended up giving it two and a half hours and the block was lifted.

I wonder if you could have restarted, gone into BIOS, advanced the time and have had the same effect.

 

[britechguy]

When fast start is enabled in Windows, shutting down does not actually shut it down.

One of the reasons I've stopped using Shutdown at all if I have to do "quick and dirty" work on a machine where I have no idea if it's enabled or not. Using Restart instead guarantees a fresh reload of Windows from disk.

It's also one of the reasons I disable Fast Startup as part of my standard setup protocol for a new Windows machine. On machines with SSDs you will never notice any perceptible difference in boot speed whether it's on or off, and that's the vast majority of newer machines.

I still can't figure out what genius at Microsoft thought that hibernating the machine God knows how many times in succession wouldn't result in problems. And that's what Fast Startup is - the Windows system state is hibernated, but not the user state. If I really want hibernation then I want both system state and user state preserved.

 

[Philippe]

I still can't figure out what genius at Microsoft thought

Must be the same guy who thought:
- Let's hide the Defender icon. It's well known antivirus warnings are useless!
- Let's the "server" service on for everyone & every desktop. Attack surface? Don't care
- Let's the touchscreen service on, even without a touchscreen. RAM & loading time? Don't care
- Let's put a nice picture on the logon screen & blur it, so no one can see it!
- Let's install ton of apps on the computer without even asking the owner... (You don't want games, let's install them anyway. So what they're taking up space (desktop/SSD/start menu) and you have to pay to play?
- Let's put the weather on the taskbar. Yeap, first role of an operating system and no one is really looking out their window nowadays...
- Let's make the file search function so slow & complicated, it's now faster to open CMD and do a "dir /s" like it's 1990...
- You name it

 

[britechguy]

Let's make the file search function so slow & complicated, it's now faster to open CMD and do a "dir /s"

Or use the Everything Search from Voidtools. That's what I've been doing for years now.

I virtually never search for anything based on file content, and on the very, very rare occasion where I need to I will use Windows Search for that. But for file name only search, I've never seen anything faster than Everything. You can set it up to index on file content, too, but I don't use it often enough to justify the overhead.