Getting rich in computers?

PcTek9

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How do you do that?

For Pc Repair, I guess you could hire employees as the workload supports it, and have more and more people working for you. Eventually open up other locations, and finally maybe a chain.

If you are the only one doing it, it's difficult to become rich. It's a numbers game. The pay for machine is generally low. If I fix 10,000 machines at $100 dollars each, then I have made 1,000,000 dollars, but... that's a lot of work, and i can't spend any of the money.

So what else then?

Well some other areas do pay very well such as data recovery, system consulting, but you have to know your stuff and be good at it. I have a friend that generally charges $5,000 a day for checking out your security at your big xyz corporation.

Maybe software, if you can write it. Software is more profitable than web design. The reason is it's hard to resell a website to somebody else that you already sold to customer A.

With software, you write it, get out all the bugs. Then sell it over and over.
In fact, if you let them download it from the net, you don't even have to spend money on cd's or packaging or shipping.

A software product continues to make money for you just sitting there on the web, while you are off writing more software.

It's probably the easiest computer business to make a million dollars in, once you figure it all out and get going.
 
For me, it's not about wanting to get Rich. It's simply about making extra income on top of my regular full time job. I'm not out to become rich, just out to make enough income so my wife can stay home full time to raise our children, and give us a livable/comfortable lifestyle.

If business started to balloon for me, it would need to increase exponentially, as my work benefits are outstanding, and with a family, health benefits and paid time off are almost worth as much what you get paid.

My ultimate goal is to make an extra 1000 to 2000 a month on top of my full time income (which is in the 4000 range).

If i was in 20's, single, with no obligations, I think I'd go gang busters and make the computer shop i'd open my life, get the business growing, and then eventually hire a staff.
 
I'm not really in it to become rich either. Although rich is nice! :D What I really want is to make enough to pay the bills, make sure the kids always have what they need, have money saved up, and be able to buy some toys. So, basically what pretty much anyone expects with a "normal" job. I treat my business as a job. I have a set starting time and end time. When I go home I don't bring my work home with me. That's family time. I have a strict separation between family and business. I don't deal with anything business related on the weekends or in the evenings. That way when I am at work, I'm focused on work and when I go home I can enjoy my kids. Plus this way I don't get burned out on the job.

I know I could grow the business quicker if I worked weekends and 20 hour days, but it's just not worth it to me. The business will still grow the way I am doing it now, just maybe not as fast. But it is a lot less stressful too.
 
wrong business for getting rich.
There are exceptions of course, but ... who said "the exception confirms the rule"?
One way to get rich (legally) is buy for one price and sell for more.
I don't wish to get rich. Instead I wish I was the son of a rich man, heh? Next life maybe :D
Making the riches is harder than spending them.

PcTek09 is right, software writing is profitable business in terms of how much you put in and how much you get out. Is like you sell your music album over and over again.

But the most profitable is if you are a talented writer, write a best seller or 2 or three. The copyright for books is 150 years. Not only you, but your childern, their children and their children's children will get residual income from your book being published.
Advertising, publishing, films based on your books, film, cartoons, etc. characters based on the characters in you books will have to pay royalties... niiiiice heh?
You got your creative side of your brain flowing with ideas?
You beter start writing.
 
My tip of the hat to you, very interesting topic. This might become my favorite topic of all time.

First I'd like to say that wealth is only relative to the individual. Assume you have $1,000,000 and I only have $100,000. From my point of you you are rich, but let's say there is a third person involved who only has $10,000. From this persons point of view, I am in fact rich. So then, let's go about my reply by rewording your question. How does one become wealthy in the computer industry?

Let's look at the types of computer industries that are relatively easy to join. We have the computer OEM industry, software development, computer sales, software sales, computer service, security service, data service, forensic services. Okay, so that's a pretty nice list of basic computer industries. Now that we know what's easy to enter, let's look at how we penetrate.

Assuming you start with the computer service industry you can probably grow rather quickly. Start locally by passing around some flyers go door to door and sell your service and grow by word of mouth. The first couple years you'll probably be making a max of around $50,000/year, a comfortable start but still no where near "wealthy". So with your income you decide to open up a retail location. maybe something small around 600 square feet in all, low rent, decent visibility and with some demographic analysis around your biggest client base. Now you can consider yourself a competitor to the other local shops in the area like yourself, although Best Buy, Staples, etc. just sweeps you off like a spec of dust still so they aren't your direct competition.

Now you have a store, great! A store! Just like the 10 other stores in a 5 mile radius. You need to stand out a little more. Sure you got your client base, but what about your clientele, your potential customers. You need to attract them in too. So you start to do other things, move into other markets and possibly begin to sell your services to business and business don't only want virus removals and tune-ups, no no no, they need things like security, consultations, and a single one-stop-shop for all their IT needs. So you move into the next level of computer services.

Great, now you are part of two large industries. the Residential computer service markets and the Commercial IT industry. By now your business is probably making around $200,000~$250,000 per year, but you have things like your lease, advertising, and even payroll, so let's say you're taking only $75,000~$100,000 per year on your own accord. Still no where near wealthy so you will have to expand even further.

Now lets say you think you should start selling some things and grow both of your current markets so you begin to stock software, computers, laptops and accessories to go with it. Uh-oh, your tiny 600 sq. ft. shop can't support all of that, so you decide that it's also time to open up a second, more larger store possibly in the next town over. Now we're making double the amount we were last year, although you need to hire a manager for one of the other shops since you can't run two shops at once. So, you're not taking in double, but still a considerable amount. Let's say $125,000~175,000. That's more like it, now we're getting somewhere!

So you continue to grow for a couple years, maybe 2 or 3 and you hit a brick wall. You got about 4 maybe 5 shops by now and you simply can't manage the chaos anymore. Your dream all of a sudden has become a nightmare and you simply don't know how to manage it anymore so you open up a corporate office where now you sit back and relax and let all your workforce do the hard stuff. You hire managers for each of your shops and they simply report to you with what's going on all the while you consider ways to grow your business further. Now that your business is more efficient you can expand explosively and move into the market of franchising!

Your franchising starts out small- 2 maybe 3 takers if you're lucky on the first year. Nothing big, but it brings you in those franchise fees and you now make around $250,000/year and all it took was about 7~8 years to get here. give it another three years and you're franchising one shop every couple months. Now here we are 10 years later and you're making around $300,000/year. Not much growth anymore and the 10 years of constant work has put you on stress. You're aging faster than you should and you want to just quit. So you hire a CEO, give him a lofty payroll and let him do what you don't want to do anymore so that you can either retire or just grow.

Your CEO decides that it'd be beneficial for your company if you expand into the software development market and begin making your own software for your customers to use and your employees to use. So you open up a new company dedicated to making software for your company. Start off with maybe some AV programs, some PC cleaning utilities and then expand into things like utilities, and if you're willing to drop that low- some font collections, maybe some cheap games, and even some cruddy office applications. This company is solely yours and generates maybe $100,000 more for your personal income per year. now you're up to about $400k/year.

The two companies are now two growing flowers and you're the gardener who gives them the water they need and decide to grow your flower garden into a flower field by entering the world of stocks! So you convince an investor to buy off 49.9% of your company, leaving you 50.1% of your stock, and 100% of the control and he gave you probably $3~5,000,000 for your company. In return he wants to see BIG growth. Now with your money in pocket you run an advertising campaign to investors and tell them to open up more locations! You begin by opening in the next state over, soon it's two states over and by the end of the year you have 20 new locations across the north-east region and have become somewhat of a large company. You hire region managers, analyst, and even get your own private advertising company and now make around $750,000/year based on client base and franchising fees.

Your software company has boomed and so has your computer service company and your CEO comes to you advising opening up a private label for things like cables and the like. You oblige and are now the owner of a third company who gets all their parts made in China. You have a warehouse that distributes and stores all the things you make like cables, pc add-on cards, wireless network adapters and even laptop accessories and this generates hype amongst the investors. So you sell off another chunk of your stock- losing control of the company but getting millions of dollars over night.

By now you can consider yourself wealthy, and it only took about 15 years. Although, you can still grow from here. Not only does your franchising have the ability to reach sea from shining sea, but you still haven't even gotten into the OEM PC business yet, and you also haven't invested your own money into other things yet either. Of course, this is all theoretical stuff and is very, very unlikely to happen. Not to mention you can't expect it to go according to plan because there is a saying in business..."Everything always cost twice the amount thought and sells half as much as expected"

Now...I don't know if I veered off course here. But yeah this is all stuff that's running in my head right now.
 
Where did you buy your hat from?
Or if you don't have a hat, where did you pull those figures from?
LOL, keep dreaming mate.

Just a saying bub ;)

Not sure if I mentioned it (took me about 20 minutes to post all of that) but those figures came purely out of thin air and have no real world value. Also, I'm not dreaming. I do not want that kind of responsibility. My dream is to have 1 shop, where I can support my families needs and live a decent life. That in itself might even be a dream, but hey everyone has one.

Edit: Also, now that I've read my post again I realized that it is a little dreamy as well.
 
Now, before someone else mentions growth, please read this:

Growth means making this year more than last year.
Steady growth is making more and more and more every year.
Stupidity and greed can bring you to the point of trying something to get rich.
But without cold blood and intelligence you get nowere.
I am considering myself too inteligent to allow greed into my personal moral values.

Growth is a 20th century term which is making anyone so confused, but only the big fat cats, the greedy ones who are already filthy rich know what really means.
Have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY
 
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Just a saying bub ;)

Not sure if I mentioned it (took me about 20 minutes to post all of that) but those figures came purely out of thin air and have no real world value. Also, I'm not dreaming. I do not want that kind of responsibility. My dream is to have 1 shop, where I can support my families needs and live a decent life. That in itself might even be a dream, but hey everyone has one.

Edit: Also, now that I've read my post again I realized that it is a little dreamy as well.

Where would we be without daytime dreams?
In mental hospitals probably.
Nothing wrong with dreaming. Totally agree.
Got quite a few of my own, some are favourites. :)
 
Nothing wrong with dreaming. The key is to take that dream, formulate a plan and make it a reality.

I do work for many, self made, wealthy individuals. Quite a few always ask me why I don't expand. My answer was always "because I don't want to expand". I love working on my own, not having to answer to anyone and not being responsible for anyone else.

However, I feel I'm getting to the point where I don't want to run around from site to site anymore and have started to put a plan together that involves leasing a location to act as an office/shop/retail location & hiring a couple of young techs that I can train and send out on jobs while I stay in the shop and take care of business. I should be ready by the end of the year.
 
People like us get into this business because it's something we love to do, not to get rich, although it is nice to dream, but it makes me sad because I know that dream will never be true
 
People like us get into this business because it's something we love to do, not to get rich, although it is nice to dream, but it makes me sad because I know that dream will never be true

It's actually that very attitude which will make you never reach that goal. You can get rich doing anything. I guarantee there is a way to sell air itself and make millions doing it. It's all about being in the right place at the right time while doing the right things the right way.
 
Just want to add my two cents...

I entered this business in January 2010 with the goal of creating a nice comfortable full time income for myself. I wanted to be there by the end of the year but I have done it in only six months.

Now I am thinking.. "ok where to from here?".

I agree with some of you that getting rich shouldn't be the main reason you are in this business. However I wouldn't discount the idea of getting rich either.

I believe you can make some very good money if you have the right attitude and work smart and hard.

And it is important to note also that everybody has a different definition of 'rich'. For me personally - I earn a nice comfortable income while being my own boss, I get to help heaps of people and feel the gratitude, and I have complete freedom to decide what I do with each and every day...

I don't know about you guys, but to me that is true wealth. I feel pretty satisfied with what I have. :)
 
It's actually that very attitude which will make you never reach that goal. You can get rich doing anything. I guarantee there is a way to sell air itself and make millions doing it. It's all about being in the right place at the right time while doing the right things the right way.

Well maybe I didn't say it right, I got into this business because I loved doing it, and its a good living, I am quite comfortable, but I also do not wake up every morning expecting to make a million bucks today, its just un reasonable. And thinking like that is just childish. I am all for making a **** ton of money, but if you want to do that, go be a CEO of some Fortune 500 company, not a computer tech.....
 
Just want to add my two cents...

I entered this business in January 2010 with the goal of creating a nice comfortable full time income for myself. I wanted to be there by the end of the year but I have done it in only six months.

Now I am thinking.. "ok where to from here?".

I agree with some of you that getting rich shouldn't be the main reason you are in this business. However I wouldn't discount the idea of getting rich either.

I believe you can make some very good money if you have the right attitude and work smart and hard.

And it is important to note also that everybody has a different definition of 'rich'. For me personally - I earn a nice comfortable income while being my own boss, I get to help heaps of people and feel the gratitude, and I have complete freedom to decide what I do with each and every day...

I don't know about you guys, but to me that is true wealth. I feel pretty satisfied with what I have. :)

I have to agree. My business was born in 2001 and did not become full time until march 1st of this year. Basically when I went full time I had not done any true computer work for a client in a year or two. I had been working full time in auto parts and going to school. When I lost my full time job I decided to run my side business full time until I could find another job. I was not in business for 2 weeks before I decided that I was not going to work for anyone else again. Its a lot of work but 5 1/2 months later I make as much as i did when I worked full time but I work 17+ hours a day to do it. I don't mind the hours and while I am getting a little burned I love my job and would not ever regret getting in to it.

On the subject of getting rich. Yes I would like to live the dream but I have done that math and even if I raise my rates and work the maximum number of billable hours a day its very unlikely. If you want to get rich in this business you have to hire people. This is another reason why there has to be a lower class in order for there to be an upper class. In order to truly make it big in this business you need to hire people that make you more money then it costs you to employ them.
 
Well maybe I didn't say it right, I got into this business because I loved doing it, and its a good living, I am quite comfortable, but I also do not wake up every morning expecting to make a million bucks today, its just un reasonable. And thinking like that is just childish. I am all for making a **** ton of money, but if you want to do that, go be a CEO of some Fortune 500 company, not a computer tech.....

A bit of an exaggeration - wake up every morning expecting to make a million bucks today - but, I do wake up every morning expecting to make $300-$500 as a one-man computer consulting/networking/repair business. It's a nice living. There are some days where I don't make that much, and there are days I'll make more. It is not unreasonable (or unattainable) to earn $75,000-$100,000+ per year after being established.

In my opinion, thinking of making alot of money is not childish at all. It can be done - people do it every day even in this economy. Get an idea, formulate a plan, execute the plan, adjust the plan as need be and work to grow your company.

Of course, at some point you'll stop being a computer tech and work more on the business end of things, but that's OK. I'll give an example of a client who owns a dozen restaurants in my area. He started with one and he & his wife worked it 12-14 hrs. per day to make it successful. They did the same with their second & third. Today you'll see him in his locations, but you won't see him preparing food. You'll see him & his wife taking care of the business end, executing efficieny, quality control, negotiating with suppliers, handling payroll, insurance....everything on the back end. He's not netting $1,000,000 per day, but coming close to that per year. That don't suck ;)
 
A bit of an exaggeration - wake up every morning expecting to make a million bucks today - but, I do wake up every morning expecting to make $300-$500 as a one-man computer consulting/networking/repair business. It's a nice living. There are some days where I don't make that much, and there are days I'll make more. It is not unreasonable (or unattainable) to earn $75,000-$100,000+ per year after being established.

In my opinion, thinking of making alot of money is not childish at all. It can be done - people do it every day even in this economy. Get an idea, formulate a plan, execute the plan, adjust the plan as need be and work to grow your company.

Of course, at some point you'll stop being a computer tech and work more on the business end of things, but that's OK. I'll give an example of a client who owns a dozen restaurants in my area. He started with one and he & his wife worked it 12-14 hrs. per day to make it successful. They did the same with their second & third. Today you'll see him in his locations, but you won't see him preparing food. You'll see him & his wife taking care of the business end, executing efficieny, quality control, negotiating with suppliers, handling payroll, insurance....everything on the back end. He's not netting $1,000,000 per day, but coming close to that per year. That don't suck ;)


I wasn't talking about being comftorble, and if you are going to open up and IT Chain that is a different story too. I also expect to make a certin amout every day, but not what I would define as rich, when I have more money then Bill, I will be rich :D
 
I wasn't talking about being comftorble, and if you are going to open up and IT Chain that is a different story too. I also expect to make a certin amout every day, but not what I would define as rich, when I have more money then Bill, I will be rich :D

Rich and rules the world are two totally different things. :D
 
People like us get into this business because it's something we love to do, not to get rich, although it is nice to dream, but it makes me sad because I know that dream will never be true


I agree with you that we are in this business because its something that we love doing. Just like everyone else, I want my business to make money so that I can live off of. Would be nice to make tons of money but hey making a nice living is a good thing...
 
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