Bring in to fix hardware find other problems

brock029

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I have had this happen almost every time a customer has a hardware problem (broken screen, not booting, etc...) Once the issue is fixed boot up to make sure everything is working and then discover some sort of virus/malware/etc...for an example I got a laptop today with a failed inverter, hooked it up to an external monitor to verify it works and find a fake antivirus telling you to purchase the software to remove what it found (can't remember the name right now) plus its missing updates, mse is disabled, and who knows what else.

My question is how do you handle it and what do you charge? Do you call, tell them, ask what they want to do and charge full price for the hardware replacement and virus removal?
 
I make sure I always diag the whole thing. That way I only have to call them one time. Yes I charge them full price for a virus removal and hardware repair.
I do combine, sort of, as I offer tiered flat rate pricing. Everything inshop is 45-75-90-129
So a Virus removal is $129. If they also have a bad LCD. I would charge them $75 for the LCD. So it would be $129 Service + $75 LCD = $204+tax
 
I'm not surprised. Its amazing how far a user will persist using a PC before they take it on for repair. And TBH most of the PC's I look at have at least some sort of malware, spyware, or virus issue :D
 
I make sure I always diag the whole thing. That way I only have to call them one time. Yes I charge them full price for a virus removal and hardware repair.
I do combine, sort of, as I offer tiered flat rate pricing. Everything inshop is 45-75-90-129
So a Virus removal is $129. If they also have a bad LCD. I would charge them $75 for the LCD. So it would be $129 Service + $75 LCD = $204+tax

I always do hardware diags so nothing to worry about there.





I'm not surprised. Its amazing how far a user will persist using a PC before they take it on for repair. And TBH most of the PC's I look at have at least some sort of malware, spyware, or virus issue :D

I think alot of people have no clue that there system has slowed and is filled with bad stuff. Like this customer in particular had no complaints other then the screen not working.
 
The first step is your probing questions when they drop it off. Find out if they borked it some other way that may cost more.

Educate them that if there are any other issues that are found after the main repair, there could be additional costs to fix those issues.

Finally, call them. Technically speaking, you were contracted to only fix the original issue at a specific price. Doing anything extra that could cost more is going beyond the scope of the original repair you wrote down.

My work orders say that exact thing as well in the terms. Most of the time, after the education part, they say they just want it fixed. I have them put on their work order "fix any issues encountered" and have them initial it. That gives me authorization to fix anything I see wrong and bill them for it.

It's the same thing with a mechanic, if you only agree that you want an oil change and they discover you have a problem with your air conditioner, it's outside of the scope of the original repair so they need to call you for authorization.
 
The first step is your probing questions when they drop it off.

+1 . This is VERY important.

We had a laptop dropped off today. Guy and his son comes in and says "it's slow". After asking them questions, booting it up and trying a few things, "it's slow" turned into :

1) Slow boot, sometimes BSOD.
2) somtimes screen goes black, just see faint background (inverter, CCFL ?)
3) cannot do searches on internet, don't know why :rolleyes:
4) USB does not always detect, have to reboot.
5) runs hot, sometimes crashes.

If I don't ask them questions and boot up the machine I never get the truth.
 
If it is little things I will just do it for free, e.g I can see flash needs updating. If it is major issues I will tell the customer before I proceed with the job and tell them it will be more.
 
The first step is your probing questions when they drop it off. Find out if they borked it some other way that may cost more.

Educate them that if there are any other issues that are found after the main repair, there could be additional costs to fix those issues.

Finally, call them. Technically speaking, you were contracted to only fix the original issue at a specific price. Doing anything extra that could cost more is going beyond the scope of the original repair you wrote down.

My work orders say that exact thing as well in the terms. Most of the time, after the education part, they say they just want it fixed. I have them put on their work order "fix any issues encountered" and have them initial it. That gives me authorization to fix anything I see wrong and bill them for it.

It's the same thing with a mechanic, if you only agree that you want an oil change and they discover you have a problem with your air conditioner, it's outside of the scope of the original repair so they need to call you for authorization.

So since I haven't gotten all of my paper work figured out, and me being mobile. Do you print out a work order and when you arrive at the location fill out what the problem is and that you are fixing that issue? Then like you said have a place to check and sign if they want other found issues fixed? I do have invoices made but never thought about work orders.





+1 . This is VERY important.

We had a laptop dropped off today. Guy and his son comes in and says "it's slow". After asking them questions, booting it up and trying a few things, "it's slow" turned into :

1) Slow boot, sometimes BSOD.
2) somtimes screen goes black, just see faint background (inverter, CCFL ?)
3) cannot do searches on internet, don't know why :rolleyes:
4) USB does not always detect, have to reboot.
5) runs hot, sometimes crashes.

If I don't ask them questions and boot up the machine I never get the truth.

But do you actually ask questions un related to the problem. Like with this one they had a laptop with a black screen but it would boot and you cold hear the Windows login music play. So I asked and figured out when it happened and that no physical damage was done to it. I guess another probing question would simply be if they have been having other problems before the screen went out?
 
I always give the customer a price upfront for the repair and advise that parts are extra. If we encounter any other issues, they will be charged an additional fee. Typically, I will give a discount on labor if there is a virus found after a hardware repair. Some customers will just want a hardware repair and for you to leave the virus on there so they can fix it themselves.
 
So since I haven't gotten all of my paper work figured out, and me being mobile. Do you print out a work order and when you arrive at the location fill out what the problem is and that you are fixing that issue? Then like you said have a place to check and sign if they want other found issues fixed? I do have invoices made but never thought about work orders.

Your paperwork should be one of the first things you sort out.
What is to stop customer refusing to pay if you havent rven got simplest work order?
Or worse, reporting you for theft if you have no reciept for a computer if you have to take it somewhere?
My wofk sheet contains, amongst other stuff:
Customers name
Address
Phone number and email
Computer serial number
Date, details of work needed and any tests done during assesmant.
It also has alot of bumph about me being in possesion of it, and some basic t&cs about data loss and damage etc.
We sign 2 one for them, one for me.
 
So since I haven't gotten all of my paper work figured out, and me being mobile. Do you print out a work order and when you arrive at the location fill out what the problem is and that you are fixing that issue? Then like you said have a place to check and sign if they want other found issues fixed? I do have invoices made but never thought about work orders.

I only have one form that they sign and that's the work order. A work order is a common form to use in any repair business whether that'd be computers, plumbers, car mechanics, appliance repair, etc. It details all the information about the client, the problem, what was fixed and how much it costed.

As far as printing, I don't print my work orders, I have my clients sign on a tablet. Before the tablet, my work orders were custom-printed, 2-sided duplicate forms. On both the printed version and the tablet, I'd fill out all the information on the client and their general complaint. Once there, I put down in another area what's actually going on after I've spoken with them a little bit. There's a completely separate area for "client instructions". This is where I put that they want their old parts returned or destroyed once replaced, any passwords they use or special instructions. Included in this is if they want something outside of the scope of what was originally discussed.

But do you actually ask questions un related to the problem. Like with this one they had a laptop with a black screen but it would boot and you cold hear the Windows login music play. So I asked and figured out when it happened and that no physical damage was done to it. I guess another probing question would simply be if they have been having other problems before the screen went out?

I, personally, always start off with how long the issue has been going on or when they first noticed. In the case of your example, I would probably say something similar to this:

* What exactly is it doing that you don't want it to do or what's the difference between what it normally does versus now?
* How long has it been doing that or when did you first notice it did it?
* Has the laptop been jostled, dropped or otherwise moved quickly recently?
* Has any liquids been exposed to the laptop's keyboard or any other areas?

After the questioning and putting a flashlight up against the screen to see if I could see an image I would determine what I believed to be wrong with it, advise the client and give them an estimate. At that time I would also tell them about any other possibilities that could be the cause and their costs to repair from least to worst, worst being the last they will remember. I would also ask them if the repair is something worse than what I have estimated, if they would like me to just repair it or call them for authorization. If they want me to just fix it, that goes in the box with their initials.

Then I start asking other follow up questions:

* Have you noticed any BSODs on starting up recently? (could be a driver issue)
* Has anyone changed the display settings recently? (could be out of sync)
* Has it been starting or running slowly?
* Have you seen any errors, popups or programs doing something they shouldn't or don't normally do?
...etc...

If any of those follow up questions are positive, I advise them that they may also be dealing with other things that will not be fixed after I repair their screen issue and that they may or may not be directly related. Again, I ask if they want me to just fix it or leave it. If they want the fix, it goes on that box with their initials.

There may be other ways of doing it that are better, but that's what I do.
 
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