You wont compare build quality because you know Mac wins hands down across the board. Its not just about looks its a more sturdy machine. Also its not all about specs and that is what you gamer fanboys can't seem to get. Its about user experience. That seems to be something you just are not capable of understanding.
No, I will not, and have not indicated that Mac doesn't have a (more) sturdy machine, I agree with you, so what's to argue. If this is but the single point you get stuck on then then fine. Shall I list all of the garbage that you were wrong about? How often do you drop or be rough to your Macbook? Never? Ya, just what I thought. I have never broken ANY of my personal laptops or had any cosmetic problems, so I do not feel the need for a super-high quality build. Lenovo Laptops meet US government ruggedness tests and they are plastic.. so what have you to say about that? Glocks are made of plastic polymers, and they are a highly sought after firearm.. but you like metal.. fine, your choice. You act like plastic is ALWAYS a bad thing. Hey, at least the plastic has enough bend and "give" in it to not dent permanently like the Mac. Still want to argue this silly point? Your personal preference, nor mine, makes any difference. We might as well argue about our favorite colors.
Oh, so now specs aren't all that important? So now I can compare a $600 mid-range laptop to the Mac then right? Gimme a break. What is a "gamer fanboy"? I guarantee you that there are plenty more "Gamer Fanboys" than mac owners. So stop trying to belittle a Multi-Billion dollar PC gaming industry.
"It's the user experience! It's the user experience!" - Your like a freaking parrot. It's not that I am incapable of understanding "User Experience".. what you don't understand is that I HAVE A MACBOOK, so for you to tell me about Apple and me not understanding is pompous. Here's what you DO NOT UNDERSTAND.. it's the same hardware, the user experience would be the same if you were to run OSX on a PC box. THERE IS NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT MAC HARDWARE! The only reason OS X isn't on PC is because of the legality (EULA).
Also I don't have to use VM ware, I can simply dual boot and run windows natively on my Mac.Something you cannot do with your OEM PC.
Really? You may want to learn to do a bit a of research before you post stupid things like this.
Oh ya, well my puter is better than yours! Gimme a break.
Why is this guy installing Mac OS X on a PC, dual booting with Vista then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfOCXZ_I0aI
And this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auj3jEtp4_E
And more:
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Simple_Dual_Boot
http://www.windows7hacker.com/index...mac-os-x-and-windows-7-complete-work-through/
http://thegadgets.net/2009/11/21/how-to-dual-boot-mac-os-x-snow-leopard-and-windows-7-on-a-pc/
http://echofoxx.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/dual-boot-mac-os-x-on-pc-amd-or-intel/
Wow, imagine that! You were spitting out more mindless, unfounded dribble.
What I find really astounding, contrary to you, is that my i5 16GB RAID 10, 5-HDD system PC I am sitting in front of dual boots OS X 10.6 with no problem. So put your foot in your mouth and start chewing.
Sure you are. $29 is less than $199 its kinda basic math. Lion was as much of an upgrade as 7 was. Mountain Lion will be as much of an upgrade if not more than Win 8. Your points about this are invalid.
You know, if you have ever been in a debate class you would understand that when one of the debaters starts to take things out of context, it usually means they are running out of steam.
You see,
Gee, I get A LOT MORE system for about $420 less with the Asus.
I can get almost the exact same system in the Lenovo for $1070 less than the apple!
If you pay $420 less, or $1070 less (MSRP prices, or even your wholesale price pay for Windows) for a PC compared to a mac. Where is the savings? Try to keep up, and stay in context.
I'll help you out:
(From our previous example)
Asus G53SX
$420-$199 windows = $219 savings
Now the Apple:
$420+$29 OSX upgrade = $449 loss
At $29 per MINOR upgrade (You can debate blah blah blah about Windows Versions vs Mac Minor updates all you want, I don't care), it is going to take you 15 Mac OS upgrades to recoup your loss, if you wish to look at it this way from a purely monetary view. Your trying to claim that you are somehow saving money with Mac, I'm claiming you are not. Sorry to bust your bubble, but PC's are cheaper. Not sure why we are arguing this.
Yes, lets talk Thunderbolt. Its faster by far than anything any PC offers, the price will drop as more manufactures start making products. Thunderbolt may be on mainstream PC's as well one day, but Apple made happen.
See, this is where I'm going to start having to call names, fanboy. Apple DIDN'T make it happen, Intel and the PC did. It was ported to the Mac. See:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/thunderbolt/thunderbolt-technology-developer.html
You want Thunderbolt on the PC, go buy it. Hey, for me I only have to buy a PCI-e Card.. not a new system.
Thunderbolt, AKA "Light Peak"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)
When I said:
But, I'm sure that Mac users everywhere will think that Steve Jobs or Wozniak are just fantastic people for "making" thunderbolt.. and there will be Technibble discussions for years to come, arguing the origin of Thunderbolt.
I didn't think the argument would start happening in the next two posts! Hardy har har. Again, Apple had nothing to do with Light Peak or Thunderbolt.. all they did was request it be implemented and purchased the equipment for building systems. Because someone purchased something, they are suddenly "responsible" for making it happen? Please, give me a break.
Oh, and your claim that it is faster than anything is somewhat true, but misleading. All devices in the Thunderbolt chain use their bandwidth.. when the 10Gbs bandwidth runs out, what do you think starts happening? You loose data throughput just like an internet connection would.
Apple is good at throwing large numbers out there and the users give almost no thought into how they are going to use it. How is thunderbolt going to help you? It eliminates some wires, of which I don't find to be a problem.
Like I said, your Display will not work any better, your external HDDs will not spin any faster, etc.
What's wrong with my eSATA ports that are 6Gbs x 4? My video can continue to come from my DVI connector, it's digital, and this way it doesn't take any bandwidth from my other devices.
Let's make another example that you will undoubtedly disagree with.
If you had 4 eSATA 3.0 drives (6.0Gbs) that would be a total of 24Gbs... so hows that Thunderbolt going to hold up with a mere 10Gbs? See, on my PC I get the full 24GBs because the ports are independent of each other. On the Mac, you do not. Just an example. Let's not even mention a max of 7 devices daisy chained on Thunderbolt.. Those aforementioned 4 drives could be sharing two monitors and some other devices, further diminishing throughput. How amazing does it sound now?
You tell me what is so wonderful, and how you would use Thunderbolt to accomplish something that isn't being done already (With plenty of bandwidth I might add).
I already told you some of the potential drawbacks, now you tell me some potentially "amazing" uses that makes it a super-selling point.
