After you remove a virus do you put ANTI-VIRUS on?

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Thanks for clarifying that. Not too expensive as I could easily make 100% profit based on my current MAV prices.
My accounts software does recurring invoices so can automatically send an invoice just before 12 months are up.
I suppose I can remotely uninstall MAV and the agent if they don't want it anymore?
 
Kaspersky.
It never ceases to amaze me how significantly MORE expensive their products are, when bought direct from their site.

It's my fave though.
 
Never a good idea for a few reasons I won't reiterate here. You're taking the easy road with this one. IMO this makes you look like what they call a 'pizza tech' around here. A professional should support the client fully and do the whole job, not just fix the problem and move on leaving the client to fend for themselves after 30 days.

Customers appreciate being taken care of. Be a FULL SERVICE technician!

By full service, I mean:
  • Blow out dust and clean it up a bit if needed.
  • Test all hardware you can when you can - e.g. HDD scans, RAM testing, check for blown caps on the mobo, etc. to catch additional problems EARLY on.
  • Remove the virus. During the process try to get an idea of where it came from (note for later.)
  • Fix the damage done to Windows and/or other software.
  • Update all A/V and web technologies that can be exploited (e.g. Java only if already installed, Flash, etc.)
  • Test, test, test.
  • Ensure the system is running optimal by performing any needed maintenance.
  • Ensure the system has active A/V protection - don't leave this up to the client even with a 30-day trial. They could forget to purchase or worse - blame you if something happens, and especially they will wonder why you didn't sell them a full year.
  • Remember where you think that virus came from? TELL THEM, and suggest what they can do to avoid it in the future if possible.
  • Work with them on safe browsing habits.
  • Ensure there is an opportunity for you to answer any questions they may have.
  • Finally, hand them a nice invoice with ALL the work you did to the system above. Let them know you went the extra mile and the hard drive tests good. Something that reads more than simply "removed Win32/virus." Maybe even some pre-printed materials (or heck, even shortcuts on their desktop if they desire digital copies) with more information on safe browsing habits and the like.
You can even use all the work you just did and information you gathered as an upsell opportunity (e.g. more RAM if needed, you can offer a data backup service and/or upsell an external HDD for backups, etc.)

Heck if you REALLY want to impress, get a folder or manilla/plastic envelope 8.5x11, for each client with their name written on it and also your business card attached. Put their invoice in it along with the other materials you've given them. This can include not just papers, but anti-virus product CDs if it was a physical copy sold, data backups on DVD if you did that for them, etc. You can include a physical printed copy of the Windows/Office/etc. product keys even. Very useful in certain cases where a key is illegible on the case after time/rubbing/fading, or they lose their office disk case, or whatever. Tell them that in the future should they need to return for repair, to bring that folder.

Want more? Keep a DETAILED log of what you did to their computer - complete with specs and all. Then you're prepared to answer any future questions about past service. Documentation is crucial - so be specific. I've worked with too many techs in the past who just wrote "removed viruses" on the ticket/invoice and there is no detail.

I'm sorry to rant off-topic here, but the 30 day trial and other questions you've posted recently, combined with the fact that you've only had a few customers, I'm saying that it seems like you have a way to go and a lot to learn. Stick around and you'll pick up a lot of tips and tricks here and there.

Some really great ideas in that post Nick. Thanks for that.

I learned right off the bat to never have multiple virus scanners installed because they can wreck havoc or cancel each other out by fighting over files. I always install a free AV (MSSE) on client computers if they do not have protection. I also update said program and run a scan with it before I send them on their way. I also advise them to buy MBAM. This is probably the only program I actually recommend to clients.
 
Thanks for clarifying that. Not too expensive as I could easily make 100% profit based on my current MAV prices.
My accounts software does recurring invoices so can automatically send an invoice just before 12 months are up.
I suppose I can remotely uninstall MAV and the agent if they don't want it anymore?

That's a tough one because I can very easily make an extra 30 in profit selling AV up front. No stickyness though, and no easy renewal. Though I have only been around 2 years, I have never gotten the year 2 sale...

The obvious answer, for me anyway, is to sell gfivipre and charge for a year up front.
 
Even though our customer base is 90% business, we have put about 30 individuals on MAV and it keeps them coming back to us for everything. Not to mention the annual renewal which is handled automatically by Autotask.
 
I can see an added benefit of throwing take control on there when they need remote support...

unless you use it it is .35 better spent elsewhere. I use to leave it on. I almost never use it for most clients. 25 computer at .35 a computer is a $6 saving at the end of each month. Not much but its 6 buck i didnt have to spend. They never need it and i dont have to pay.

I have a few people with no checks. just av. Like someone else said i charge 100 for the year. works out great. If they dont want to continue i just delete them from my dashboard and i am not charged anymore.
 
unless you use it it is .35 better spent elsewhere. I use to leave it on. I almost never use it for most clients. 25 computer at .35 a computer is a $6 saving at the end of each month. Not much but its 6 buck i didnt have to spend. They never need it and i dont have to pay.

I have a few people with no checks. just av. Like someone else said i charge 100 for the year. works out great. If they dont want to continue i just delete them from my dashboard and i am not charged anymore.


Quick question about that AV (I haven't gotten into GFI yet)... Is that AV white-label? Meaning, does the client see it as "Your Business" antivirus? I'm just thinking that could be pretty badass. I've been following this thread and seeing everyone talking about installing GFI's AV by itself for clients and it's got me really interested in trying out GFI. What's the cost on that (average, no specifics necessary) per install for you? Just curious about profit margins.
 
I think what some of the 'guys' here are trying to get across is that you need to understand the business more before you jump into it... or it will swallow you.

Honestly, for me its 80% business know-how and 20% technical know-how. It doesn't matter how good you are at being a tech, if you can't run a business then you will likely fail like the other 85% of start ups. They fail primarily because they don't understand business. I have a friend that is a damn good photographer and after hearing people tell her she needs to start her own business, she did. She quickly found out that although she is a good photographer, she knows nothing about running a business. She has been in business for about 2 years and although she is busy, she isn't making any money and I doubt she will last much longer. Oh... and the passion she had for photography... no more! She almost hates it now.

My point is... its great that you know how to fix computers and that you love it... it takes that. But beyond the love of what you do... how do you translate that into a viable, sustainable business? Especially when techs are a dime-a-dozen these days. You do it by understanding business... not just the computer business... but business in general. Unfortunately, most people learn the hard way. The good thing is that you are young enough to fail without serious complications.

Having said all that, my hope is for you to succeed! Checkout these graphs and statistics and maybe it will give you some direction and a better idea about what I'm talking about:
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/01/small-business-successfailure-rates/

Good Luck!
 
Quick question about that AV (I haven't gotten into GFI yet)... Is that AV white-label? Meaning, does the client see it as "Your Business" antivirus? I'm just thinking that could be pretty badass. I've been following this thread and seeing everyone talking about installing GFI's AV by itself for clients and it's got me really interested in trying out GFI. What's the cost on that (average, no specifics necessary) per install for you? Just curious about profit margins.

If you brand the dashboard i think your av is branded i could be wrong. The margin are nice for the little work you have to do. It turns out to be a few extra thousand a year.
 
MSE or make sure what they have is updated, usually if they have McAfee its messed up so I have to remove it, if they have kids or are repeats I'll put Avira free on.
 
The MAV thru GFI is not branded but you can use a script to brand it with your logo or image file. By default it just has the MAV "bug" logo and is called Managed Antivirus. Although having a white label AV is neat, you do want to let your clients know that it uses the VIPRE AV engine so they don't think it is some home grown AV that you are using.

I won't discuss the cost here as (I think) GFI doesn't allow its resellers to publicly discuss this (and you shouldn't want to). Call your rep to get this info... but it is very affordable and easy to get great margins.

If you brand the dashboard i think your av is branded i could be wrong. The margin are nice for the little work you have to do. It turns out to be a few extra thousand a year.
 
The MAV thru GFI is not branded but you can use a script to brand it with your logo or image file. By default it just has the MAV "bug" logo and is called Managed Antivirus.
Yup. I use that same script and have it run daily on each system. Only takes a few seconds to guarantee that my logo has not been overwritten by some update.
 
That is a single user license that can be installed on 3 machines. Not a 3 user license. Don't make that rookie mistake.

:) I'm the one that said 3 user license. I meant 3 machines, but common use is where Dad buys the item and installs it on his 3 machines, his kid's, his wife's, and his. They only need 1 CD, and they can all share it, technicality aside.
 
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:) I'm the one that said 3 user license. I meant 3 machines, but common use is where Dad buys the item and installs it on his 3 machines, his kid's, his wife's, and his. They only need 1 CD, and they can all share it, technicality aside.

The idea of taking that and selling it to 3 different people is kinda pizza-techie IMO. OP is more worried about his credit card terminal.
 
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