"You Don't Really Need an Anti-Virus App Anymore"

[red12049]

That graph she linked is the very well known (by people in the IT industry) "AV-Comparatives.org" test, done and released each month. It is widely regarded by long time experienced techs, and they do a lot of "real world testing". Their monthly graphs are instantly recognizable.

They are immediately recognizable if you haven't learned to ignore them because you can't read them. Ask a color blind friend about most graphs and pie charts.

Each of us see the world slightly differently, usually because of circumstances beyond their control.

Rick

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

They are immediately recognizable if you haven't learned to ignore them because you can't read them. Ask a color blind friend about most graphs and pie charts.

Each of us see the world slightly differently, usually because of circumstances beyond their control.

Rick

The articles from AV-C are the important part, not just the height of each bar in the graph...I'm partially color blind also. Being color blind doesn't mean you can't see the shape of a graph that is unique to an AV testing resource that helps IT pros select quality products based on real world unbiased testing instead of paid ads.

Kinda like recognizing the logo from Intel, or knowing the eye or robot figure from Eset NOD32.

 

[red12049]

For those here who wish to use automobiles as a metaphor for computers...

Back in the bad old days, almost no one used seat belts, helmets, car seats for children, etc. Almost no one would pay extra to have such safety equipment installed. Even as we learned they saved lives, personal finances trumped any "possible" accidental loss of life. Same thing with emissions equipment.

It took laws and regulations to force automakers to include that equipment in their cars. It took laws to force drivers and riders to use seat belts and helmets.

Even today... I live close to the border of North and South Carolina. South Carolina has no helmet laws, and they're killing themselves off with depressing regularity.

So before you conflate computers and automobiles, remember your history. If you're too young to remember that history, ask your parents, or an older friend or customer.

No one is forcing MS to include AV... unlike seat belts, air bags, and so on.

Rick

 

[red12049]

The articles from AV-C are the important part, not just the height of each bar in the graph...I'm partially color blind also. Being color blind doesn't mean you can't see the shape of a graph that is unique to an AV testing resource that helps IT pros select quality products based on real world unbiased testing instead of paid ads.

Kinda like recognizing the logo from Intel, or knowing the eye or robot figure from Eset NOD32.

If you're completely color blind (as I am), you frequently can't separate the important parts from the background. I also have that complaint about magazines that use pictures as a page background, and then put the text over it. Part of the text becomes indistinguishable from the background. I've written more than one "letter to the editor" over the years about that.

While I recognize the Intel logo, I wouldn't know the Eset logo from Adam... almost unheard of down here. Again... different life circumstances mean we see the world a little differently.

Rick

 

[red12049]

I agree this thread is more about the risks a person is willing to take. The reason why we have seatbelt and helmet laws in the first place is because enough people either didn't care or were too clueless about the risks of not using one. Imagine if we didn't have those laws, we would be seeing articles about how you don't need to wear a seatbelt because cars are safe enough now.

We used to hear people say they wouldn't wear seat belts because they wanted to be ejected from the vehicle if it went on fire. Which is true.


In an exceedingly small minority of accidents.

Rick

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Stick in the game longer...you'll start to recognize market leader logos. Just takes time.

 

[red12049]

Stick in the game longer...you'll start to recognize market leader logos. Just takes time.

Chuckling. I've been "in the game" since 1996 (as a business). I'm 67. Time to move on to other pastures.

 

[GTP]

My .02. If everyone stopped logging in as "administrator" on their Windows computer they would have almost 100% mitigation against any malware/virus/pup.
There is/was a parallel discussion in this forum about the pro's and cons of AV from a couple of years ago.
(and me embarrassing myself, Lol my apologies @fencepost )
Here:
https://www.technibble.com/forums/t...what-av-should-i-run.67742/page-3#post-530385

 

[ComputerRepairTech]

My .02. If everyone stopped logging in as "administrator" on their Windows computer they would have almost 100% mitigation against any malware/virus/pup.

There has been quite a few uac exploits over the years though but I agree if the user doesn't know the administrator password it can help quite a bit.