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Informing on your neighbours? There's an app for that: Big Brother iPhone download encourages you to spy


It claims to be a handy way to make you a ‘better citizen’.
But a new app for the iPhone has been condemned by critics who claim it is turning mobile users into a network of government spies.
The PatriotApp links your phone to American security and law enforcement agencies via the Internet and allows you to report anything you want at the touch of a button.


By simply pressing the relevant icon, users can sound the alarm for terrorism, ‘suspicious activity’, a health pandemic or an environmental safety issue.
The $0.99 app, named after the controversial Patriot Act brought in by the U.S. government after 9/11, is designed to ‘encourage active citizen participation in the War on Terror and in protecting their families and surrounding communities’, its makers Citizen Concepts claim.


But critics say it is like putting Big Brother in the palm of your hand and could easily be open to abuse by those with questionable agendas.
The app works by making a direct link between your phone and law enforcement agencies such as the FBI and the Environmental Protection Agency.
The software also links up to your Facebook and Twitter page meaning you can post alerts on there if needed.


There are options to report ‘government waste’ and a forum for employee whistleblowers whilst other features include a shortcut to the FBI’s Most Wanted Internet page, in case you think you see a suspect out and about.
Citizen Concepts claim that the app will allow citizens to record and reports issues of National Security, government waste, white collar crime, workplace harassment, discrimination, and public health concerns.


But since its announcement, technology bloggers and commentators have savaged the company’s motives.
Technology blog Infowars.com wrote that it was little more than the launch of the ‘iPhone snitch network’.
‘An app like this is meant to solidify the climate of fear in which our leaders want us to exist,’ they wrote.
On Mobilecrunch, Ashley commented: ‘It really does sound like big brother is watching you!’
And on InfoTech.com Erin Monda said: ‘While I suppose this level of connectivity would be helpful, I am deeply cautious about what a degree of overzealousness might lead to.


‘It’s not 1984 yet - thankfully - but there may still be cause for concern.’
Passed in October 2001 with little debate in Congress, the Patriot Act gave U.S. law enforcement agencies sweeping powers to monitor the the personal habits of not only those who have been identified as suspected terrorists, but anyone residing in the United States as well as United States citizens residing abroad.
The law for the first time forced third parties holding personal date to give it up to law enforcement officers without telling the individual concerned, and significantly expanded the use of wiretaps.


A storm of criticism followed, fuelled by a string of cases where federal investigators had invoked the act for purposes it was not intended such as targeting journalists and illegal file sharers who breached copyright law.
Citizen Concepts co-owner Dr Roy Swiger defended the PatriotApp.
‘PatriotApp is a real-world solution for real-world problems...the ever-present threat of terrorism, demonstrate the need for such an application,’ he said.


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As I'm living in a country where I still have my rights, I won't be using that nor would anyone around me.

On its current track, I figure the US is about one generation away from 1984.
 
As I'm living in a country where I still have my rights, I won't be using that nor would anyone around me.

On its current track, I figure the US is about one generation away from 1984.

You got a point there, We need to unite against this seriously!!!!
 
We older folks have heard it all before: from the Soviet Union, from China, from East Germany, from Cuba.

I'm afraid you're overly optimistic about both our countries, Housecalls.
 
We older folks have heard it all before: from the Soviet Union, from China, from East Germany, from Cuba.

I'm afraid you're overly optimistic about both our countries, Housecalls.
I don't know. No one in my country is getting strip searched or x-rayed at the airport. Might happen someday but not foreseeably.

What started all this TSA stuff anyway? Was there a new 9/11 that I missed somehow? Did someone get away with shampoo in their carry-on?
 
I don't know. No one in my country is getting strip searched or x-rayed at the airport. Might happen someday but not foreseeably.

What started all this TSA stuff anyway? Was there a new 9/11 that I missed somehow? Did someone get away with shampoo in their carry-on?

Nope just handguns. And knives.
 
To this day no Terrorist or wrong doier (not counting people that bring shampoo on board) has been stopped due to the TSA.

What has stopped terrorist attacks? Citizens, afraid that the hijacked plane will be crashed into an object instead of landing where the hijacker demands, taking deliberate and immediate action to subdue the would be terrorist.

Desolve the TSA

Make decision makers responsible for the consequences of their decisions.

Put in jail whoever was responsible for the policy which enforced government sanctioned Molestation or low quality pornography.
 
Wait what?

Someone in the TSA made it mandatory that if you decline the scan by the Rapiscan Backscatter machines or Millimeter scanning machines (Which I refer to as low quality pornography machines) you must be given an "Enhanced Screening". If you are a child you are told "it's a game" (Just like the game their weird Uncle plays!) and then the TSA agent will search the child. They search up to mid thigh or so, not ever touching the crotch.

If you are an adult you get the full monty. Contact with "sensitive" areas are done by the back of the hand. The Crotch is not avoided like it is with Children. You also better hope you don't have a bladder bag or colostomy bag because they might not listen to you tell them about it and instead break it for you.

All the while people wonder why suddenly the amount of tourism to the US is less and less, instead of fixing the problem they try and spin it with PR.

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I personally believe the person that put these practices into implementation should be prosecuted for violation of the 4th amendment.
 
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Someone in the TSA made it mandatory that if you decline the scan by the Rapiscan Backscatter machines or Millimeter scanning machines (Which I refer to as low quality pornography machines) you must be given an "Enhanced Screening". If you are a child you are told "it's a game" (Just like the game their weird Uncle plays!) and then the TSA agent will search the child. They search up to mid thigh or so, not ever touching the crotch.

If you are an adult you get the full monty. Contact with "sensitive" areas are done by the back of the hand. The Crotch is not avoided like it is with Children. You also better hope you don't have a bladder bag or colostomy bag because they might not listen to you tell them about it and instead break it for you.

All the while people wonder why suddenly the amount of tourism to the US is less and less, instead of fixing the problem they try and spin it with PR.

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I personally believe the person that put these practices into implementation should be prosecuted for violation of the 4th amendment.

Your post might be the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.
 
To this day no Terrorist or wrong doier (not counting people that bring shampoo on board) has been stopped due to the TSA.

How do you know that? Just the fact that they're scanning people makes it tougher for a potential terrorist.
 
How do you know that? Just the fact that they're scanning people makes it tougher for a potential terrorist.

How many terrorists has the TSA admitted to stopping? Passengers and flight personnel end up stopping terrorists now. I would think that the TSA would want to let people know that terrorists are being stopped and apprehended by the security measures that are in place now.

I am predicting that this topic is going to go down the toilet soon.
 
How do you know that? Just the fact that they're scanning people makes it tougher for a potential terrorist.

Your post might be the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.

Okay, now seriously instead of out of hand dismissing an argument, I'll go ahead and discuss the point.

When has the TSA methods for screening passengers ever stopped a terrorist threat? Never. Data? What data there isn't any for a reason.

If there was ever a time to champion the TSA for stopping a threat they would have trumpeted it out for all to hear as soon as the backscatter backlash came about. The simple fact they didn't is enough without you asking me to prove a negative (which is impossible).

You claim that the current procedures through secondary means (fear of being caught) cause less terrorist activities. Fair enough I'll include data from before these screenings taking place to prove a point....

There are roughly 25,000 flights each day (I'm using NPR's numbers).

25,000 x 365 = 9,125,000 flights a year (in the US)

from 1990 to 2000 there were 10 plane hijacks (in the World)
from 2000 to current day there have been 15 (counting 9/11 as 4 different plane hijackings of course).
I'm using Wikipedia as a source

The odds that a plane I fly on will be hijacked or terrorized is roughly
25 (hijackings in 20 years) in 182,500,000 (flights in 20 years)
or simplified: 7,300,000 to 1

Keep in mind I'm considering WORLD hijack numbers against US flight numbers. Meaning my chances are much much much lower if I only travel in the US.

I have better odds on most lotto's than being on a hijacked plane, much less a plane blown up as a terrorist threat (7 in 182,500,000 or
1 in 26,071,429)

Now... I wonder what the chances of me getting cancer from these machines are...

With these sort of odds, do you still believe the actions carried out by the TSA are warranted? Your loss of 4th amendment rights?
 
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Home sweet, home, eh?
 
Your post might be the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time.

Eric, it is not ridiculous, it is a reality! Remember the "underpants" bomber?

I worked for 15 years in "parcel delivery" business, the last 7 in security and loss prevention, as that company also has the eight largest air cargo fleet I had training in Aviation security and had close relationships with various authorities including special branch, the reality is worse than you could ever know, it is scary! The measures put in place by the USA are extreme BUT do work and are necessary. The company I worked for is one of many U.S. based companies on the terrorist hit list, and you know, when I tell people that, they laugh! All the staff working at airport hubs are given intensive Aviation security training, most suffer from appathy, "it's not going to happen in my backyard" mentality, the reality of this risk only sinks in when there is an incident, and those incidents where becoming common place, including members of staff who were "sleepers" and thanks to the good work of the security services, prevented attrocities, many incidents the public will never hear about, due to on going investigations.

I could talk for days on this subject matter, it will make your hair stand on end! it is serious and it is VERY, VERY real. We had already lost 2 planes and crew to "air explosions" and was close to loosing a third. Just google printer cartridge bomb.

A Saudi Prince was almost killed by a suicide bomber in his own home, how did he get through security? what the general public was not told was that the bomber had the explosives surgicaly implanted in his body cavity!
I can hear you all laughing "ridiculous", now ask yourself why airports have body scanners. Terrorists are becoming more cunning and creative and thinking up new ways to attack. I miss the "excitment" but I am glad I'm out of it.
 
Eric, it is not ridiculous, it is a reality! Remember the "underpants" bomber?

I worked for 15 years in "parcel delivery" business, the last 7 in security and loss prevention, as that company also has the eight largest air cargo fleet I had training in Aviation security and had close relationships with various authorities including special branch, the reality is worse than you could ever know, it is scary! The measures put in place by the USA are extreme BUT do work and are necessary. The company I worked for is one of many U.S. based companies on the terrorist hit list, and you know, when I tell people that, they laugh! All the staff working at airport hubs are given intensive Aviation security training, most suffer from appathy, "it's not going to happen in my backyard" mentality, the reality of this risk only sinks in when there is an incident, and those incidents where becoming common place, including members of staff who were "sleepers" and thanks to the good work of the security services, prevented attrocities, many incidents the public will never hear about, due to on going investigations.

I could talk for days on this subject matter, it will make your hair stand on end! it is serious and it is VERY, VERY real. We had already lost 2 planes and crew to "air explosions" and was close to loosing a third. Just google printer cartridge bomb.

A Saudi Prince was almost killed by a suicide bomber in his own home, how did he get through security? what the general public was not told was that the bomber had the explosives surgicaly implanted in his body cavity!
I can hear you all laughing "ridiculous", now ask yourself why airports have body scanners. Terrorists are becoming more cunning and creative and thinking up new ways to attack. I miss the "excitment" but I am glad I'm out of it.

I don't think you read the entire post. I was referring to his post. Personally it's OK with me to screen - scan - touch - talk or anything else they need to do to prevent a terrorist attack.
 
Sorry eric, Misunderstanding, I gather now you was refering to his last sentence.

"I personally believe the person that put these practices into implementation should be prosecuted for violation of the 4th amendment."

Yeah, that is ridiculous.
 
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