Users my documents unavailable in the mornings?

[Majestic]

I have a strange issue. On 3 machines running Windows 7 pro in a 2003 domain environment they seem to lose access to their my documents home folder in the mornings. They have to reboot every morning then everything is fine but if their machine is locked or just sitting there they have to restart their machines.

They seem to be getting Error 5719 Netlogon errors but they CAN logon to their domain and everything is fine during the day. The error message is:

This computer was not able to set up a secure session with a domain controller in domain DLP due to the following:
There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon request.
This may lead to authentication problems. Make sure that this computer is connected to the network. If the problem persists, please contact your domain administrator.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Majestic

 

[allstarit]

So they leave pc's on. Does pc(s) have any power saving turned on.

Are all 3 computers plugged into same switch? Are they wireless or wired connection to the network?

Static or dynamic ip for them?

 

[citizensmith]

Run out of DHCP addresses?
DHCP lease expired and unable to renew?
Unable to resolve DNS ?

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

Unable to resolve DNS ?

I'd look into this also...what are they getting for DNS? And is that available during the time they lose their My Docs.

Folder redirection to a server I assume?
What happens to the server late in the evening/early morning?

 

[Tech Savvy]

I had this problem every once in a while at a school and we needed to rejoin the domain (move it to workgroup restart the. Join domain and restart) then that solved it but it happened a lot all different days with the type of dell computers that we had.

Do all of the computers have the problem logging in in the morning or just a select one or few?

 

[sapikest]

Tech Savvy: you dont need to join to workgroup, retype the name of the domain, put in admin pw, your good to go.

OP: check the settings on the network card, there is an option that the network card would fall asleep after x amount of hours - if thats not the case, check what everyone else suggested, DHCP or static? lease times? etc.. update us with this so we could help.

 

[Mokester]

fodler issue

Yes you can just use the network wizard to re-join a domain...works 95% of the time. Other times I've had to do the full log into the server remove all entries, etc.

I'm assuming that this environment is more than just 3 computers right? The other members have made good suggestions. I'd check the server logs for issues, because it's easy to do as long as you manage the logs and look at them regularly.

Then if server was good, I'd check the network component logs...maybe set them to dump to a file share...then computer logs...if your having issues with DNS or other things in the morning...there should be other errors logged to give you an idea of what is going on.

 

[Majestic]

Well it ended up that it was indeed a DNS issue. While the server was being used as the dns server, the router was the dhcp server and was not specifying the windows server as the main dns server so that was one issue - the workstations were getting dns as the ISPs. The other issue was that somehow in DNS the reverse dns records had the wrong address for the server.

It was quite messed up and I think what happened is that users were relogging with their domain credentials which worked temporarily but eventually it was recognized to be an insecure connection. Almost as if the server was used a simple resource share.

This by the way was all the same switch and all the same network as well as domain.

Thanks all

Majestic

 

[nlinecomputers]

I'd look into this also...what are they getting for DNS? And is that available during the time they lose their My Docs.

Folder redirection to a server I assume?
What happens to the server late in the evening/early morning?

I'm betting that they are getting DNS and DHCP from a router and not from the server. Lease gets lost and they can't connect.

Edit: Hit reply when I read stonecats' post and didn't finish. Nailed it. Do I get a prize! LOL.

 

[YeOldeStonecat]

I'm betting that they are getting DNS and DHCP from a router and not from the server. Lease gets lost and they can't connect.

Edit: Hit reply when I read stonecats' post and didn't finish. Nailed it. Do I get a prize! LOL.

After me...my reply is on the 11th.

 

[citizensmith]

@Majestic
Good to know you worked it out. Even better for leting us know how it ended

 

[Majestic]

I'd look into this also...what are they getting for DNS? And is that available during the time they lose their My Docs.

Folder redirection to a server I assume?
What happens to the server late in the evening/early morning?

hehe YeStoneCat and Nline you guys were right

You get a virtual prize