UK Announces Introduction of Online Pornography Age Checks in July

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The Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport's press release also explains that unlike previously implemented age verification solutions, the age checks imposed by the new UK laws will not allow Internet users to just type their date of birth or tick a box.

Instead, the new UK age confirmation solutions will "range from the use of traditional ID documents online (for example, credit cards or passports) to mobile phones where the adult filters have been removed. Users can also use digital IDs or buy a card over the counter in a shop where the verification is face to face."
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Instead, the new UK age confirmation solutions will "range from the use of traditional ID documents online (for example, credit cards or passports) to mobile phones
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So we'll have thousands of adults handing their passports and ID documents over to porn sites. Nothing could possibly go wrong with that.

Users can also use digital IDs or buy a card over the counter in a shop where the verification is face to face.
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Perfect. Until the teenage son finds Dad's 'porn card'.
 
Moltuae said:
So we'll have thousands of adults handing their passports and ID documents over to porn sites. Nothing could possibly go wrong with that.


Perfect. Until the teenage son finds Dad's 'porn card'.
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Unless they scrap search engines and tools like nirsoft for cache viewing and the fact for cookies on a PC not sure this works but I'll definitely try it https://superuser.com/questions/186...om-one-browser-to-another-or-same-browser-fro

UK is going to be a parental control software and we all know that key words always fail (bunny anyone?). :rolleyes:
 
Gegen Stück said:
WoW...Another Government IT project. No doubt "build a database" was the first thought.

From their CV...
Universal Credit, - £837 million "the project is not value for money now, and that it's future value for money is unproven." - meanwhile people starve, evicted etc
Emergency Services Network - £1.2 billion - "deeply unsatisfactory"
Disclosure and Barring Service, - £229 million - "a masterclass in incompetency"
MoJ offender tagging - "shambolic, failed implementation" & "catastrophic waste of public money"
NHS NPfIT - £9.8 billion - "worst and most expensive contracting fiasco in the history of the public sector" - and it was scrapped.
Borders Agency eBorders system - £742 million - a "huge disappointment" (And we all know how well that works ;))

Comments by the Public Accounts Committee (provide oversight for Govt projects)
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And I'm sure, just like on this side of the pond, no politician or government employee can be held legally liable for all of their failures.
 
i'm from the Uk. its easy if you want to get round thisthis all you need is a VPN and choose a location other than uk. its stupid.
 
So...they want adult sites to implement these approved age verification systems but they don't want to be responsible for running those systems themselves so they want age verification companies to step up and pay a fee to get certified. They want sites to have this done by July but they have 0 certified age verification vendors so far.
 
ComputerRepairTech said:
So...they want adult sites to implement these approved age verification systems but they don't want to be responsible for running those systems themselves so they want age verification companies to step up and pay a fee to get certified. They want sites to have this done by July but they have 0 certified age verification vendors so far.
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Well we are talking about the British government here.

#piss-up #brewery #useless #phukwits
 
So...question for UK techs: When this becomes law, a breach will be a crime, not a civil matter. What do we do when a domestic customer with absolutely no need for a VPN in the normal course of things suddenly gets in touch and wants to know if you will 'install one' for him (it is, I guess, going to be a 'him'). You ask a few questions and it becomes pretty clear what his reasons are - too embarrassed to go into his village post office and ask for a porn licence, knowing it will be all over the neighbourhood in two days' time. Simple enough request and, right now, no real reason to turn that job down. But in a few month's time, are you going to run the risk of being charged with assisting in the commission of an offence - or whatever the legal term is? Even if you're not, is it morally right to assist someone to break the law of the land - however daft it is?
 
so this is t stop underage kids watching porn bassically. Noone if they are embarressed to go to a post office is specifically going to come to you and say what it is for. Tere are many reasons for vpns. bypass region locks for example. america netflix is better than uk. privacy and security. it cant be tracked. I use one for all my online banking. its not an offence to have a vpn or use one or help install one. nor will it be even if you can guess what it is being used for. im assuming but i don't know unless you are speciffically installing it and going to a porn site for them I assume everything is ok. could be wrong though. like you would never ask a business why they would want a vpn so why question in that detail why a person would
 
Mick said:
So...question for UK techs: When this becomes law, a breach will be a crime, not a civil matter. What do we do when a domestic customer with absolutely no need for a VPN in the normal course of things suddenly gets in touch and wants to know if you will 'install one' for him (it is, I guess, going to be a 'him'). You ask a few questions and it becomes pretty clear what his reasons are - too embarrassed to go into his village post office and ask for a porn licence, knowing it will be all over the neighbourhood in two days' time. Simple enough request and, right now, no real reason to turn that job down. But in a few month's time, are you going to run the risk of being charged with assisting in the commission of an offence - or whatever the legal term is? Even if you're not, is it morally right to assist someone to break the law of the land - however daft it is?
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As I see it, providing a customer with a VPN is no different to proving him/her with a computer or internet connectivity, any of which could be viewed as tools to commit a crime. There are lots of legal reasons a customer might want to use a VPN and their reasons are none of my business.
 
TECCS said:
so this is t stop underage kids watching porn bassically.
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Let's face it, it's mainly to stop teenage boys watching porn.

It's certainly not to protect young children from accidentally seeing porn. We have search engine filters, censorship and age-consent mechanisms already in place for that. This move is an attempt to prevent adolescents, who actually want to watch porn, from viewing it. And of course, into the bargain, the government gets increased citizen surveillance and revenue from selling ID cards. Meanwhile, any determined teenage boys will find workarounds and continue watching porn unaffected.
 
TECCS said:
its not an offence to have a vpn or use one or help install one. nor will it be even if you can guess what it is being used for.
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I'm not suggesting it's illegal to have or install a VPN. But it will be illegal to watch porn by dodging the law like that. And I'm wondering if you, as a tech, might be held to be complict in that. It's not illegal to sell guns, with the right licencing etc. But try selling them to known crims in order to perform some sort of bank heist and you'll be next to them in the dock as an accessory , guarantee it.
 
Mick said:
I'm not suggesting it's illegal to have or install a VPN. But it will be illegal to watch porn by dodging the law like that. And I'm wondering if you, as a tech, might be held to be complict in that. It's not illegal to sell guns, with the right licencing etc. But try selling them to known crims in order to perform some sort of bank heist and you'll be next to them in the dock as an accessory , guarantee it.
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I highly doubt you can be called an accessory to a crime just by installing a VPN, especially if you don't ask the reason why.
 
Yes its just like if someone came into your store and said i want a laptop. would you then question them to see if they were going to order drugs, prostitutes or download pirate software on it. The police are not going to come and say ou sold the pc they did illegal things on it therefore your an acesory.

Also from what I gather the legal side is on the porn sites. So the legal bit is they have to put the checks up. if they dont they break the law if you access via a UK IP. and the accessing the wesite bit isnt the issue its just something you have to do to prove your of the legal age like ID for buying alchohol if they ask you have to provide ID but if they dont ask its not illegal to buy it not sowing ID as long as you are old enough to purchase it.

also e.g. if your mate downloads a film illegaly and you both watch it. It is him that is doing the illegal bit by downloading it not you by watching it.

I think like with anything there are levals. your examples with guns is extreme as at the end of the day guns are made to kill things (simplified a lot and not wanting to get political about guns) and if you sell it knowing its to a criminal then i assume the criminal has no gun licence so ilegal. or if they had a licence and you know that they are using for a crime, then yeah illegal. but you know that it is going to be a criminal act.

As for vpn i would never ask someone if they were going to use it for porn if they were over 18 as that is the age you are legally allowed to watch it here. if they were under then I would probably question it but it would be for all illegal activity.

But plesse dont quote me and i think i will do more research to make sure
 
UK's controversial 'porn blocker' plan dropped
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50073102

But throughout its troubled life the porn block has met opposition from across the political spectrum.

The critics said it was an attack on civil liberties, it was the government trying to censor the web, it could endanger privacy and any database of porn users would be a honeypot for scammers. Most of all questions were raised about whether it would work, with pornography shared on social media sites not affected by the ban, and savvy teenagers able to use VPNs to get round it.
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