Ubuntu

Dont forget that Ubuntu can run on a LiveCD without being installed, which prevents the need for installing it or virtualisation. Just burn Ubuntu to CD and boot your computer with it.
This way does have slower response times when using it and by no means should be used long term, but its a good way to test out some features.
 
Ubuntu !!!!!!!

Dell and I think HP both offer the Ubuntu on a Desktop PC it lowers the cost of a system by about $144.00,

Well I took the test drive also in my shop last week I had 5 older PIII machines that i had salvaged parts for and installed Win 98SE on they never sold was asking $100.00 bucks on each just to cover some Tech time. they had been sitting there on the showroom for 5 months.

Took them down this past monday and tuesday and loaded them with Ubuntu 7x Fisty Fawn, love that Ubuntu tweaked the screensaver, and the desktop Wrote out a sales flyer jacked the price to $175.00 and listed the Apps that came with it, added with the flyer that support was limited to reinstall only and setup default save folders with short instructions on saveing data under one folder for all there work can be retrieved faster and how to use the CD-Burner and there all gone but 2.
 
More on Ubuntu

I had put abit of thought in what other problems that my customers that bought thos Ubuntu systems Printing and scanning and other stuff for you guys take a look at this site for some extra help if you need it http://www.ubuntugeek.com

It is helping me with Printer instalations and other stuff...

Thought I would add that in as a helping guide if you need it
 
Linux builds such as Ubuntu are nice but I dont think its ready for the mainstream desktop yet. It is also prone to exploits that effect Windows applications, just not exploits that effect the Windows Operating system itself. For example, there are plenty of Firefox and Java exploits that effect both operating systems. Linux still needs to be a bit better with supporting hardware (or should I say, hardware makers should support linux better) before its ready for prime time.

Right now, the only time I would recommend Ubuntu for a customer is if its on a machine thats too slow to run Windows.
 
do you ubuntu, why yes I do

After having just done Fedora Core 2, Ubuntu came out. It was so much better, Debian based and all. Then I switched over to Xubuntu because I liked the Xfce desktop. Though singled out for low resource use, Xfce is even swifter on a power box. My only problems were 32-bit plugins for the 64-bit Firefox browser, getting MS Core TT fonts for Open Office and learning how to tweak the Grub config files because I dual-boot with XP Pro. Ubuntu user help forums are a big help in lieu of the "Missing Manual". Xubuntu is my main OS for over a year now and I have no MS regrets. I can recommend Xubuntu to anyone. No need to go it alone, figure it out yourself, the community help is very good. Once Ubuntu is set up it is no problem at all. If it were pre-installed a new user would not complain about anything.

Why did I switch from Fedora Core 2 to Ubuntu? It was because of the live-CD. To be able to try out Ubuntu on my system without torching my MS XP install was a great, great thing. I saved my settings and files to another great thing, the jump drive.
A live-CD and jump drive on any PC, can MS Windows do that?

Linux on the desktop is a no-brainer, a non-issue. Anything an average computer user can do on a MS Windows PC they can do on the Linux desktop, the GUI makes it so. And it really doesn't look that bad compared to GUI's of the past or to MS Windows today.
Linux is not mainstream ready because many see no reason to change or are short of knowledge to support it. What you don't know, you can't recommend.

Hardware support is pretty good if you don't have a modem, a wireless network or a higher priced unsupported video card, these require more focused consideration. If you have middle of the road hardware you are usually good to go out the box. Look at all the MS Vista problems with drivers and support just because it's new.

I believe there are lots of good reasons to try Ubuntu (live-CD) if the chance for change is before you. You have to commend the Linux community for what they have given us for free. Maybe if there were coupons to clip.....
 
Bryce W said:
Linux builds such as Ubuntu are nice but I dont think its ready for the mainstream desktop yet. It is also prone to exploits that effect Windows applications, just not exploits that effect the Windows Operating system itself. For example, there are plenty of Firefox and Java exploits that effect both operating systems. Linux still needs to be a bit better with supporting hardware (or should I say, hardware makers should support linux better) before its ready for prime time.

Right now, the only time I would recommend Ubuntu for a customer is if its on a machine thats too slow to run Windows.
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I agree that linux is not ready for the mainstream desktop yet. You got it right the first time when you said linux needs to be better with supporting hardware. The reason why it won't work the other way around is because hardware makers support linux is because there are just too many versions of it. The hardware manufacturers would have to supply thousands of different drivers per piece of hardware. There are literally dozens of different versions of linux. To ask any hardware manufacturer to supply drivers would be a bit unreasonable I think. Plus it's a very small market something like 90% of the market run Windows anyway.
 
I have it on a dual boot with xp, but I cant seem to get network connectivity just yet. So far it looks promising. Im a tux nuub so I get past the learning curve of the os.
 
i actually downloaded ubuntu a while back just so i could check out the free vmware player. i was surprised at how easy it was to use and how my perception of linux being a pain to learn was wrong. then i accidentally brought up the command line and had no idea how to use it or what i was looking at. i guess installing it to your main PC is a crash course.
 
I installed Hardy Heron about a month ago on my spare laptop and have liked it thus far. I haven't messed with a Unix/Linux distro since programming in FreeBSD and I have to say that Linux has come a long way.
 
I just decided to try Ubuntu again (used 7.04 a couple years ago and like it) after breaking Kubuntu twice. I have to say 8.10 has came a long way. I've installed and got DropBox working. I'm still trying to figure out Gimp after being use to Photoshop CS3. My next goal is to try to find something similar to Dreamweaver for Ubuntu. I'm dual booting Vista and Ubuntu. Windows shares work great. Wine is awesome for running Windows apps. I may even try to install Dreamweaver with Wine.

Edit - 8.10, not 7.10.
 
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dhrandy said:
I just decided to try Ubuntu again (used 7.04 a couple years ago and like it) after breaking Kubuntu twice. I have to say 7.10 has came a long way. I've installed and got DropBox working. I'm still trying to figure out Gimp after being use to Photoshop CS3. My next goal is to try to find something similar to Dreamweaver for Ubuntu. I'm dual booting Vista and Ubuntu. Windows shares work great. Wine is awesome for running Windows apps. I may even try to install Dreamweaver with Wine.
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It's 8.10, but not a big issue. I have noticed that each 6 month release fixes a lot of hardware issues. Also I love the open source idea as well. I once tried to get roadnav (I think it was that one) working with an old computer. I was just dinking around thinking about putting a computer in my car to play 100GB of music, wirelessly sync with my playlist's, files when parked in the driveway, and run a gps navigation system. I had an issue with my rather old eTrax and emailed the author. He promptly replied, we exchanged a bit, we got a debug version going which I ran and sent the log. And guess what, he fixed it within a few days. Somehow I don't see M$ doing that.
 
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