SATA Drivers

a bunch of donkeys

You guys are really turning into a bunch of jack-asses, can't you just help someone instead of having every post spin into a argument and insults, just help the guy

With almost every computer issue their are multiple ways of "fixing" it with different levels of "fixed"

Just help the guy to the best of your ability and move on, this shouldn't be a arena to prove you know better
 
Funny, I saw no insults except you calling people jackasses - a lot of arguing alright but that's the nature of any expert field - people argue. As for not helping, 14049752 posted a useful link before you did.

You seem to be fairly active on the forums over the last couple of weeks - you'd think that you'd have noticed by now that people invariably DO get helped here.

BTW - if you want to be a mod you should PM Bryce.
 
Dang man, take it easy, maybe they always use the OEM disk

You guys are really turning into a bunch of jack-asses

You're entitled to your opinion, but I wasn't trying to be a jack-ass or prove that I know more than anybody.

To your first comment: I was joking. I know that doesn't come across so well in text, but his company name is Central Valley Laptop Repair, and yeah...most laptops you would use the OEM disc for. I assume that he mainly works on laptops and wouldn't see nearly as many custom desktops. Maybe it was a bad joke, but I didn't mean anything by it.

Secondly, if I wanted to be a jackass, I would have used more insulting words. All I said was that usacvlr was wrong, and explained why. I don't mean to sound like a jackass when I say this; but it's clear that he didn't know what ahci mode was, and now he knows more about it and will probably apply that knowledge in the future.
 
What a baby

Funny, I saw no insults except you calling people jackasses - a lot of arguing alright but that's the nature of any expert field - people argue. As for not helping, 14049752 posted a useful link before you did.

You seem to be fairly active on the forums over the last couple of weeks - you'd think that you'd have noticed by now that people invariably DO get helped here.

BTW - if you want to be a mod you should PM Bryce.

I don't want to be a mod I want to be a part of a adult respectful community that is supportive of is users
 
Have a good life, I will never come back to this board

Wow, you really got bent out of shape over nothing. I hope your day/week/whatever gets better. We'll be here to help when you need us to.
 
The bit below from maximumpc magazine sums it up pretty well I think and describes the behavior or tendancy that I have personally experienced in the past. On every system I've built or worked on with the exception of perhaps servers we had the same attitude I think as this article, just one more unneeded inconvenience in getting a system built and or fixed and out the door. I see the potential benefit but I think in most home user installations it's not needed. The article notes that the default is off which is I believe how I have always encountered it. This is just one of those things that unless you have a need for it you just plain aren't going to use it on a daily basis. The only reason I would expect to encounter this in the field is either in a server installation or in a custom built setup with hot swappable drives in a very high end workstation. I would be very surprised to find this enabled in say a brand new Dell unless it was an expensive high end system for example. For the last two years or so I've done about 95% laptops so this doesn't come up ever, let alone RAID.



From http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/old_tech_new_tweaks?page=0%2C3
Odds and Ends

Before you POST your new system to install the OS, you should disable unneeded ports and make your decision to run either AHCI or IDE

When we build a new system, one of the first things we do is flip through the BIOS, turning off things we know we won’t ever use, such as the serial port and parallel port. If your system doesn’t include a floppy drive (some still do), we also flip off the floppy controller in the BIOS. Turning these features off saves some system resources, but it mostly just makes us feel good.
Turning on AHCI mode will require installing drivers via F6 with Windows XP.
Turning on AHCI mode will require installing drivers via F6 with Windows XP.

If you dig into your BIOS you’ll also see a setting that lets you configure your SATA ports as IDE, RAID, or AHCI. Default should be IDE and most people understand that setting RAID turns on the RAID features of the chipset, but just what is AHCI? It’s the Intel specification dubbed Advanced Host Controller Interface that enables such fancy features as native command queuing and hot-plugging of SATA devices. If you leave AHCI off, your drives will run in an emulated IDE mode.

The rub is that AHCI is not supported in Windows XP natively. You will have to use a floppy drive and F6 drivers or create a slipstreamed version of XP with AHCI drivers just to install the OS. If you already have Windows XP installed, flipping on AHCI will prevent the OS from loading. It’s also not clear what level of AHCI support Vista has, but if you install with AHCI on, you don’t need to install drivers. If you install Vista in IDE mode, however, and then turn on AHCI mode in the BIOS, the OS bluescreens.

Do NCQ and hot-plugging make AHCI worthwhile? For the most part, no. NCQ can actually hurt performance in some situations. Still, there have been online reports of chipsets performing quite poorly unless AHCI is enabled. AHCI is supported only by Intel and ATI at this point and not by Nvidia.
 
There are some motherboards out there in various systems (dell, toshiba, acer, hp, etc ) that do require the Sata driver in order to load windows.

These systems are vista machines and *do not* have any BIOS options for LegacyOS or IDE compatibility mode . Vista will load with no problems, however XP will require the drivers in order to see the hard disk( As the machines were built for Vista without XP in mind ).

Very few Windows XP designed machines( if any ) will not have IDE compatibility.

Driverpacks.net offers drivers for many Sata controllers and contains instructions on how to slipstream them into a Windows Install disk.

Also I have not seen any High end custom boards that do not support IDE compatibility I am sure this will change in the near future.
 
I believe he was referring to the 'Once Again. Wrong' comments which come across a bit grating like something a 13 yr old would say but this attitude tends to be common to the tech world so one just has to roll with it.

Funny, I saw no insults except you calling people jackasses - a lot of arguing alright but that's the nature of any expert field - people argue. As for not helping, 14049752 posted a useful link before you did.

You seem to be fairly active on the forums over the last couple of weeks - you'd think that you'd have noticed by now that people invariably DO get helped here.

BTW - if you want to be a mod you should PM Bryce.
 
I believe he was referring to the 'Once Again. Wrong' comments which come across a bit grating like something a 13 yr old would say but this attitude tends to be common to the tech world so one just has to roll with it.

People also tend to have a habit of reading attitude into text in a forum. Something that was originally written without malice can be read by another person to have a completely different meaning. I'm not a writer and I'm hardly a PR person, so sometimes I do come off as grating (like a 13 year old) without meaning to.
I'm also quick to appologize if I mess up. That's why I sent a PM to you, because I thought it was appropriate.
So, rather than risk offending anyone, I'm going to assume everything I type will be misunderstood and probably post a lot less frequently.
 
14049752 - No need to apologise here. In my eyes you've done nothing wrong. You've simply corrected doortodoorgeek and he's taken it the wrong way. No one likes being wrong but to react like he/she did is a bit OTT.

Accurate information is just one reason why this forum is so good. As for the people who want to provide inaccurate info and then have a hissy fit when they're told they're wrong, then we're probably better off without them.
 
Wow, you really got bent out of shape over nothing. I hope your day/week/whatever gets better. We'll be here to help when you need us to.

his dads ill if you remember
http://www.technibble.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4080&highlight=stent+triple
I am going to be a bit busy to help with anything for a while, my father went in today for a stent, they stopped it as they got started and decided he needs a triple bypass

I do not know when I will have time, keep moving forward, sounds like you guys are really wanting to do something good
give the guy a chance.
 
If y'all really want him to know that no one was trying to run him out of town then I suggest someone PMs him on the the Podnutz forum - same username. I'll do it if no-one else wants to. I feel a wee bit responsible. I certainly didn't mean him to leave AND I don't think I said anything too harsh. Maybe I'm wrong?
 
his dads ill if you remember

I didn't know anything about that situation. I still hope that his day/week/whatever gets better, and I still think what he got bent out of shape over was nothing. When dealing with something like that (or any major situation in life), getting irrationally upset at people is understandable, but very much misdirected.

Hopefully, once he's had a chance to cool down and get past everything, he'll be back.
 
I dont recall ever having to install SATA drivers whether it be a new system, old system, OEM cd or retail, & Ive built a lot of systems..

Oh well..
 
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