Reballing

I'm inclined to agree. I find the whole thing with reflowing/reballing questionable at best - especially reflowing. I don't doubt that most people who engage in these "repairs" mean well but I wonder about their professional judgement.

There's a *big* difference between reflowing and reballing... the technical side of reballing is cosher, but making it economical is the really hard bit, especially because the problems with lead-free solder are/will be ironed out.
 
HP laptops are not junk. Nor are the Vaios that were affected. The Nvidia chip was junk and those firms got the blame. Plenty of other non-Nvidia HPs and Sony's are perfectly good.

I'm not one to argue, but I'm going to argue. Hp's are junk, their build quality is garbage and there support is crap. I have several logs from HP support sessions that I did everything in my power not to go Freakazoid and dive through the internet to strangle some idiot's neck.

With the nVidia issue, HP is mostly at fault for knowing of the defect, continuing to ship product and knowingly deceiving users into doing bios updates and driver updates to "fix their issue" until the product was out of warranty and THEN offering to have it repaired for $250.

Sony's have built an empire of difficult to repair laptops (go ahead, remove a hard drive from an average Sony in less than 10 minutes) and their support is even more difficult to get ahold of.

Last year I saw lots of Toshibas all with disk problems with the crappy Toshiba drives they have in them. Some of their models also had terrible overheating problems.

I love Toshiba laptops, but I hate Toshiba hard drives... And they're not made my Toshiba... They're made by Fujitsu (Toshiba hard drive tool? Nope, Fujitsu hard drive tool). I have 6 Toshiba laptops and they have 0 issues, including my oldest laptop. My primary computer? Toshiba p505 that has MAYBE been turned off for all of 8 hours since the day I bought it at the end of 2008 (3 of those hours were for ram, cpu, hdd and keyboard upgrades that were NOT initiated by bad hardware, just wanted bigger and better). For the over-heating issues, they placed the GPU on top of the CPU and used a dry thermal compound. Replace with a silicone paste, DONE!

As to the rest of your comment... Agreed.
 
Just thought i'd now let people know i'm now reballing on a regular basis with no problems.

If people are interested, i can do them for £50 + shipping.
 
With the nVidia issue, HP is mostly at fault for knowing of the defect, continuing to ship product and knowingly deceiving users into doing bios updates and driver updates to "fix their issue" until the product was out of warranty and THEN offering to have it repaired for $250.

While I agree that HP DVs and most of their consumer stuff is junk (Elitebooks and ProBooks are different), I think that lovely old Nvidia were hardly straight with their OEM customers when they found out about their defects: I think that what happened is basically that HP lied to their customers and Nvidia lied to theirs (HP). Pass the buck.

BTW, has anyone seen other Nvidia failures aside form 8400M/8600M? I've seen a few nForce 7150s and some dead 8800GTs (G92) too although since that's a desktop card people can easily replace it unlike with a laptop.
 
the gpu problem affected hp, dell, apple, sony, etc it happened to almost everyone, its hardly HP's fault
 
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