Possible to load OSX into VM? (VirtualBox specifically)

[KM@ Dave]

http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/

Reporting this thread. Against forum rules and against OSX EULA.

You want to learn OSX and make money supporting it, then invest a little money. Do it right and purchase an Apple Computer.

Incorrect. You may use MAC OSX on a non-branded machine if it holds an Apple logo, e.g. An Apple sticker from an iPod box etc.

 

[TimJacobs]

Incorrect. You may use MAC OSX on a non-branded machine if it holds an Apple logo, e.g. An Apple sticker from an iPod box etc.

OK, so if I add an apple sticker, then you can install it?

 

[SmithFamilyDesigns]

OK, so if I add an apple sticker, then you can install it?

Apples installer is pretty intensive. Be sure to have the sticker on the machine prior to installation as it checks. If you put the sticker on after, its new hardware and typically causes kernel panics.

 

[Benchtech]

Apples installer is pretty intensive. Be sure to have the sticker on the machine prior to installation as it checks. If you put the sticker on after, its new hardware and typically causes kernel panics.

LULZ!!!

 

[KompuKare]

I do find it funny that Apple had no problems pillaging years and years of freely open-sourced software from BSD and other Unix variants for their product only to turn around and tell people what they can and can't do with OS X & iOS. Without FreeBSD there is no OS X and without OS X there is no iOS.

Yes, but note that Darwin support from the open source community has pretty much dried up now that people realized that aside from CUPS Apple is only willing to take and not give anything back.

In the long run, Apple's attitude won't help them but maybe the figure that the things they really needed support with were mainly to do with the kernel and basic 'nix tools and they have all those sorted now.

The BSD license is rather poor though - if I was making any contributions to any open source project I wouldn't do it unless it was GPL or similar.

 

[MrUnknown]

Apples installer is pretty intensive. Be sure to have the sticker on the machine prior to installation as it checks. If you put the sticker on after, its new hardware and typically causes kernel panics.

I'll just leave this here:
http://www.dump.com/2011/05/14/old-commercial-from-eons-ago-advertising-the-mac-video/

Hooray for flying toasters.

 

[AlphaCS]

Well technically even thought Jail breaking is against Apple EULA/SLA it is federally legal.

That was exactly my point.

 

[14049752]

Actually....jailbreaking isn't against Apple's EULA. It's worded in such a way that they don't say "You can jailbreak it". They do say that you can't reverse engineer, modify...etc, etc.... "except where the restriction is prohibited by law". So, since jailbreaking was ruled legal, that restriction is technically ok per the eula.

http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/iphone.pdf
Section 2c



I'm certain that there is a similar line in the OS X eula. However, I don't think there is any such law saying that you are allowed to install software on anything you want, including VMs.

 

[KompuKare]

Actually....jailbreaking isn't against Apple's EULA. It's worded in such a way that they don't say "You can jailbreak it". They do say that you can't reverse engineer, modify...etc, etc.... "except where the restriction is prohibited by law". So, since jailbreaking was ruled legal, that restriction is technically ok per the eula.

Ah judge when against them. But like with a lot of things which used to be legal Apple (and AT&T etc.) can just go and pay some lobbyist to have jailbreaking included in the next DMCA or similar. I believe in the US this is quite a transparent process

No need for brown envelopes or dark places to meet just pay some lobbying firm and that's money well spent: the going rate can be as little as $1 million for contracts worth $billions...

I'm certain that there is a similar line in the OS X eula. However, I don't think there is any such law saying that you are allowed to install software on anything you want, including VMs.

But while the courts do generally hold that EULAs are enforceable, I don't think there is any law which turns something you think you have bought into a mere rental agreement which most EULAs and the rights people have (or don't have) regarding music or films seem to imply.

 

[KM@ Dave]

OK, so if I add an apple sticker, then you can install it?

Yes, that is correct

 

[14049752]

But while the courts do generally hold that EULAs are enforceable, I don't think there is any law which turns something you think you have bought into a mere rental agreement which most EULAs and the rights people have (or don't have) regarding music or films seem to imply.

There doesn't HAVE to be a law that says that. The EULA says that and the eula will usually stand up in court. It doesn't matter if you *think* you own it, because you don't. When you click "I agree" you agree that you don't own the software and that you're just licensing it. The argument of "I paid for it, so I can do what I want with it" is the absolute weakest argument someone could make. It only extends to the physical disc...so you're free to use your disc as a coaster, a frisbee, a mirror, or whatever....the intellectual property on that disc, though, isn't yours.