OneDrive best practices for small business

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I need a little help with OneDrive for business. I don’t know the product much so I am trying to find some howto’s or a best practices document.
I’ve inherited a client that's using a Windows 7 PC as a file server. The technician they had before installed OneDrive for business on the PC to share the documents of the root folder with everyone in the company, and they shared that folder locally so that users can access it as cfs share.
My questions is, is this how OneDrive was meant to function? I’m asking because they old tech is gone and not reachable, but there are sync errors and changes are not being uploaded to office 365. I will have to go and update or remove and reinstall OneDrive but I would like to do according to MS specs and not according with how it seems to work in my mind. Any input or links to documentation would be really appreciated. Thank you.
 
I have no experience personally but I've heard from a fellow IT Pro that OneDrive for business is a knightmare
 
I wouldn't consider OneDrive a business solution.

Version conflicts are not handled properly.

The ONLY benefit I could think of is that you could have your files accessible from a remote device without the need for a VPN or RDP.
 
I am not a huge fan of the 600 pound, many armed gorilla called Microsoft, but what I have learned over the years is that their business solutions need to be applied as directed. Taking products and services out of context leads to more problems down the line. Hence the request here to find out what the best practices for this thing is, and what it was made to do. I need to get their existing system back online and then I can offer them other remote access solutions.
 
Unless they have some VERY compelling reason so stay with Onedrive I would look at alternatives. I'm a fan of Dropbox myself.
 
I'm done with supporting OneDrive and now SharePoint. SharePoint was simple, until OneDrive hijacked it and farked it all up on the desktop.

OneDrive is supposed to be for personal sharing from one device to another. The business option is horse doody, doesn't work well and you can not sync 1T, I dare you to try.

SharePoint is only good browser based and used for intranet purposes.

I have a referral for a good SharePoint (and affordable) consultant.

Office 365 is not really even a good business package anymore, I have now shifted to AppRiver exchange, File Locker for file sharing and have clients buy Office 2013 flat out. Skipping all the marketing from Microsoft. Clients are loving my "in house packages" because support trumps all.
 
I'm done with supporting OneDrive and now SharePoint. SharePoint was simple, until OneDrive hijacked it and farked it all up on the desktop.

OneDrive is supposed to be for personal sharing from one device to another. The business option is horse doody, doesn't work well and you can not sync 1T, I dare you to try.

SharePoint is only good browser based and used for intranet purposes.

I have a referral for a good SharePoint (and affordable) consultant.

Office 365 is not really even a good business package anymore, I have now shifted to AppRiver exchange, File Locker for file sharing and have clients buy Office 2013 flat out. Skipping all the marketing from Microsoft. Clients are loving my "in house packages" because support trumps all.

+1 For AppRiver Exchange, also a good idea to buy office unless they need like 50+ installations. I like to setup buffalo nas devices for sharing and backup, they have a great web client to access files. If you need to mount as a drive remotely there is expandrive which is awesome for mounting cloud storage as a drive. Then I set it all to backup to crashplan and it's a done deal. With any nas I like to get the diskless ones and use wd red pro drives, great stuff.

I should point out that this is a setup for small offices without servers.
 
Tried one drive for business for even individual users. Mistake. They have like a 300,000 file limit. So you get that many files uploaded and one drive stopped syncing even though we were nowhere near the 1tb size limit.

The setup you are using, install Dropbox. We switched those clients to Dropbox and they are happy as can be. You may want to run a local backup every so often to be safe though.
 
Share the knowledge...

Lisa, I really wish you would write out something to explain it better.
I bought it for myself but I don't know if I am using it to the fullest potential.
Am sure there are a few tech like myself that want to be sure we are selling and SUPPORTING it correctly to our clients.
 
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You're spot on - it's company without a server.
As for OneDrive for Business. Everyone was right. That service/software is freaking Trainwreck!!! Rarely do I see software behave so bad. I was looking for documentation and logs to troubleshoot, but I couldn't find anything. I'm quite sure it's choking on the path length.

Spoke to the client and he's now ready to change. I'm going to need to evaluate their needs. They need two remote users to access the same files share used at the office.

I took a look at AppRiver Exchange. Doesn't the pricing seem a little steep compared to O365 hosted Exchange. The price I saw was $12.95. I looked at Sherweb too it's pretty competitive and close to home. By the same token I priced out an IceWarp server. Comes out close to $5 a month per user.
 
You will not regret going with Sherweb for email.

Their support is amazing and the stability of the servers is rock solid.

Pricing at ~$8 / mailbox (25GB) / user is competitive and scalable.

But it is email only, no other bells and whistles.

File sharing.... same file at the same time? or same set of files? Sherweb also has sharepoint.... but for most of our clients we either use remote desktop to the office, DropBox, or now Google Apps.
 
You're spot on - it's company without a server.
As for OneDrive for Business. Everyone was right. That service/software is freaking Trainwreck!!! Rarely do I see software behave so bad. I was looking for documentation and logs to troubleshoot, but I couldn't find anything. I'm quite sure it's choking on the path length.

Spoke to the client and he's now ready to change. I'm going to need to evaluate their needs. They need two remote users to access the same files share used at the office.

I took a look at AppRiver Exchange. Doesn't the pricing seem a little steep compared to O365 hosted Exchange. The price I saw was $12.95. I looked at Sherweb too it's pretty competitive and close to home. By the same token I priced out an IceWarp server. Comes out close to $5 a month per user.

If you speak to AppRiver directly you can get hosted exchange "only" with them supporting it for around $5 per mailbox.
 
Here is a reply from another thread...

Here is the nutshell version. (and this is not for managed services, just break/fix techs like myself)...and this is only my review, so take just based on my experience!

Office 365 home version, includes 5 installs and 1T of One Drive and 60 minutes of Skype. Many people buy this for their business as they are out shopping at a retail store, see "Office 365" and buy it. They also think they are buying the business package and wonder why their emails don't synch between devices, as promised. This is the $99 per year or $9.99 per month or some other retail box price.

Office 365 for business is subscription based only. There are different packages a client can buy, most buy the $12,50 per month package and many of my clients buy the wrong package.
Official sales page here --> https://products.office.com/en-us/business/compare-office-365-for-business-plans

If you notice the list of products sold under the Office 365 for business umbrella...I will put the real name in BOLD

Full, installed Office applications Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Publisher, and OneNote on up to 5 PCs or Macs (Office 2013)
Office for tablets on up to 5 Windows tablets and iPad® tablets
Office for smartphones to view and edit Office docs on up to 5 phone
Online versions of Office including Word, Excel, and PowerPoint (NO ONE USES THIS BTW)
File storage and sharing with 1 TB storage/user (This is really called SharePoint or OneDrive, guessing this is their pitch for OneDrive, I have never seen a user get 1T of SharePoint space!)
Business class email, calendar, and contacts with a 50 GB inbox (Exchange Online)
Unlimited online meetings, IM and HD video conferencing.Includes Lync App (most clients use it for chatting, some sharing screens, workflow, etc, not a heavily used app with my small business clients.
Corporate social network to help employees collaborate across departments, locations, and business apps (Yammer and no one has ever requested it, I think bigger companies use it for social media integration)

What do most of my clients really need?
  • They need Exchange (which is called Business class email in the Office 365 packages)
  • They maybe need new software, Office 2013, which is called "full installed Office versions" Tip: if they have Office 2010, they do not need to upgrade, 2010 works great with exchange
  • They maybe need SharePoint for file sharing, but in the past few months, I have had nothing but problems trying to install SharePoint on the desktop and if your clients want browser based only SharePoint (most do not as you can't attach a file in Outlook easy when it's browser based), SharePoint is not something I will support anymore.
  • They maybe need OneDrive, but from my past few months of experience again, I don't recommend OneDrive for sharing files, or uploading 1T of data (that they say you can do, it will never synch or share properly). I am now recommending staying with business Dropbox or trying File Locker both are at $15 per month. Easy to use software, no drama in installing or configuring!
The nutshell version is this, when my clients call in with Outlook issues, I offer Microsoft Exchange, and then interview them on their software, file sharing and online backup. I don't even offer SharePoint, OneDrive or Lync. Most of my clients have under 10 employees and already have systems in place. I have found that mostly bigger firms want the full "Office 365 experience" so I get down to what my clients need.

Exchange
New Office 2013 (Maybe)
File Sharing

I hate to be such a fuddy duddy, but when clients call and say "I want Office 365" and I do the interview, they only need exchange. I don't even buy through Microsoft, I use a vendor.
 
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Thanks for the clarification, Lisa.
Now, what do I do with clients that want to collaborate on Office docs. They want to be able to edit and work on the same document at the same time. This is a very small office, 2-5 people, with no server in house. Sharepoint online seemed to be the way to go, but with the Onedrive for Business integration and its limits, it looks like it won't work. Do you have any ideas for this time of scenario?
Thanks.
 
SharePoint is the only one I know of that does that and you can setup SharePoint as a mapped drive, but only 1 level of directory works from my experience. So yeah, if you want to map a drive and expect your clients to call in every 2 months to map it again (constant for one of my clients) then it works ok.

You can use Dropbox, File Locker and a few other file sharing programs. SharePoint is the only real time one I know though, sorry I can't answer better. I hate helping clients with this!!!

I have a video on my youtube channel on how to map a drive btw. http://www.youtube.com/callthatgirl should be in my list
 
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