Network Problem

Heh, if I had a manual that would be great, but all ive got is you guys and google.
Sounds to me like you can't even be bothered to look up any info. Your manual is right there at the command prompt. It's called 'man'.

This is one of the reasons why Linux will always be a third contender, cause its not user friendly like Windows or even Apple. Too much command line utility work, and not enough graphics and simple thinking to solve a problem. Ill give that editing of the file a try.

If you feel like that, I would recommend you install Windows. If ever you get a serious problem in Windows, just do a full reinstall or pay a tech to sort you out.

Oh, and just so u know, i did do an ifconfig and it didn't show the adapter at all.

Have you even heard of 'man' :rolleyes:

This is a classic case of RTFM, and the enduser being too spoilt to even try to switch on their brain.

If you do want to learn, get a beginners/dummies book on Unix or Linux,
spending some time reading these is worth it.
 
No, I never had heard of man, cause im not a linux person. I can work with Windows all day long, I actually am a tech and love windows.
 
No, I never had heard of man, cause im not a linux person. I can work with Windows all day long, I actually am a tech and love windows.

Well I guess there are 2 choices you can make then. You can take your Linux computer and reinstall it as a windows computer since you love windows and then you'll be in your comfort zone then when things go wrong you'll be able to troubleshoot and fix. Or you could learn linux which could be frustrating to you and won't help you in the short term. The reason you're not liking Linux at the moment is that it doesn't seem to be a quick and easy learn. No it's not. It's like learning a language. I wouldn't expect to learn German off the top of my head either because I've never been exposed to it before.

The thing with people in this field is that there is an inherent curiosity for learning that which we don't know...opening electronics to see what's inside, looking at code to see what we can read, stocking up on reference books, trying this to see if this will work after that didn't, etc. I am guessing that some people have it and some people don't. If you'd rather stick with what is familiar, then do it.
 
No, I never had heard of man, cause im not a linux person. I can work with Windows all day long, I actually am a tech and love windows.

Even though man is a terminal command, there is often a GUI version as well. Just like in Windows when you click on help & support, most Linux GUI's have a similar menu item.

I guess what I don't understand is why you think it is so much more difficult for the average user. I'm not talking about repairing, that will take quite a bit more practice and experience. I'm talking about day to day operation. I have never had the need to use the terminal for any "normal" operations. Yes, I've played around in it for the experience, though. But the manual is available in the GUI, as well as options to configure most hardware, install programs, access the file system, do updates, etc.

But, just like Windows, when something goes wrong you might need to use the prompt. Average Windows users are ignorant and scared of the prompt too. To them there is no difference between a linux prompt and a DOS prompt. They will call a professional for support.

I don't see the argument that "Linux is too hard and will never be popular" as having any truth at all. Distros like Mint, Ubuntu, Linspire, etc are just as easy, if not easier to use than Windows. Average users will never have a need for the terminal on it just like they won't with Windows. I think there are two reasons for the lack of wide spread acceptance. One being that it can be confusing to pick a distro because there are so many out there, hence no one company to look at and be comfortable with (ie like microsoft). Two, the availability of software. Sure Linux has thousands of titles that are all free, but people are comfortable with their current software and don't want to give it up, even for similar free options.

I honestly think that you are looking to deep into what you have to do. When I look at a computer, I don't really learn each new program, or have to learn how to use the OS. I guess I just see it differently to most. I see the knowledge I have about computers as concepts, rather than individually knowing how to do or use each program or OS. The concepts stay the same. As long as you don't think too hard about it, you can adapt quickly to anything. The whole "windowed" concept is easily transfered between OSes. As long with the organization of the software and apps installed and their functions. There will always be a type of control panel, there will always be some sort of menu system or program manager, they all have desktops, almost all the control panels apps between OSs are the same or very similar, etc. I really don't see much difference at all between Windows, Linux, Mac, etc in terms of GUI. Sure, some may look better than others, and there are slight differences, but the concepts are all the same.

That being said, everything you know about Windows troubleshooting basically remains the same. The only difference is that you will need different tools, and the commands you use in the terminal will be different than you use in the Command Prompt. You also have a much higher degree of control of the Linux OS vs others. But you don't have to use it, it's there if you want. Your confusing more control and more options with greater difficulty. Just because they are available, doesn't mean you have to learn them.
 
I guess I just find Linux hard to use because I don't understand it. Programs don't "add or remove" you have to go thru repositories and things like that. The basic GUI is the same, or similar enough to work with, but things like installing programs and other things I find more complicated. Maybe its just cause I never have worked much with it and had no one to teach me, but for some reason I just find it difficult to use.
 
I guess I just find Linux hard to use because I don't understand it. Programs don't "add or remove" you have to go thru repositories and things like that. The basic GUI is the same, or similar enough to work with, but things like installing programs and other things I find more complicated. Maybe its just cause I never have worked much with it and had no one to teach me, but for some reason I just find it difficult to use.

It's just different. You just need to get used to it. With Windows, you know exactly where to go to do something, and you could probably get around with just the keyboard and your eyes closed. Since your new to Linux, you have to look for things. They are basically the same, and organized basically the same, but you don't instinctively know where to go. So you are probably just equating 'not knowing exactly where' to 'more difficult'.

I think installing software is easier in Linux. The repository makes sense. You just load it up search for a program or type of program, then click install. With Windows, you have to search the web, download to a location, install it, then delete the installation files. Everything is right there in Linux and it is very quick to find something. And if you think about it, when you uninstall a Windows program, it basically just runs the installer again with the remove option. So in Linux you can go back to the repository (installer) then click remove. Also in the repository there is an option to only show what is installed. That way you don't have to search for the app and it will look basically the same as add/remove.

However, programs that aren't in the repository can be more difficult to install. But I haven't run into a program I wanted that wasn't in there yet.
 
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