YeOldeStonecat
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Yeah I'd be all over RAID 10 ....but we went for ease of expansion and flexibility, and the Synology hybrid RAID allows some pretty sweet options.
My New Synology NAS Drive : Very Slow
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Solid or stranded?
You probably already know this, but: If it's solid, make sure you get the 3 prong style RJ45 connectors (if you're not using punch-down wall sockets).
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Oh for pity's sake.
No.
I didn't know that.
I feel like a newbie today.
The type of user Xander has for breakfast, pausing only for lite-disembowelment and the suggestion I never darken this forum again.
Martyn
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Lmao Bertie. It's worth going on a cabling course, I did one last year and there were people from businesses on the course who have been cabling wrong for years so there are plenty of problems out there in the field waiting to happen!
lol @ Bertie
To be honest, most of what I've learned about network cabling is through mistakes I've made, and some of it relatively recently too.
I've just recently used some of these myself on solid conductor Cat 5e and they work well:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00173RRW8/
Technically, it's not actually the number prongs that make the difference, though most of the three prong type are usually designed for solid conductors, in my experience. It's the alignment of the prongs that matters. In-line prongs are designed to pierce the middle of a stranded wire and sit between strands. Staggered prongs (which most 3 prong connectors have), are designed to go either side of a solid conductor, piercing the insulation around it and holding the conductor tightly.
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This probably best illustrates what I mean:
To be honest, most of what I've learned about network cabling is through mistakes I've made, and some of it relatively recently too.
I've just recently used some of these myself on solid conductor Cat 5e and they work well:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00173RRW8/
Technically, it's not actually the number prongs that make the difference, though most of the three prong type are usually designed for solid conductors, in my experience. It's the alignment of the prongs that matters. In-line prongs are designed to pierce the middle of a stranded wire and sit between strands. Staggered prongs (which most 3 prong connectors have), are designed to go either side of a solid conductor, piercing the insulation around it and holding the conductor tightly.
EDIT:
This probably best illustrates what I mean:
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JustInspired
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LOL. I've learnt something too. I had no clue about the solid/stranded connector thing. But then again I'm a huge fan of punch-down sockets on the wall with a pre-made patch cable...
Good morning.
This is what I ordered......
This used to be such a simple task [emoji18]
..... Bloody computers.
I think we made a big mistake moving from a lump of slate and a piece of chalk.
Internet ?
Pah.
Let's go back to a couple of baked bean tins and a length of string.
(Note to self, remember to empty and clean the tins first).
Better still,..... smoke signals.
If my new NAS isn't faster after all this, then I shall hold YOU, yes YOU, personally responsible, and get my sister-in-law solicitor to file charges.
.....Then again, maybe not. [emoji12]
I have a LOT of ethernet running around my house, and I am SO LOOKING FORWARD to ripping it all out and replacing it.
This is what I ordered......
This used to be such a simple task [emoji18]
..... Bloody computers.
I think we made a big mistake moving from a lump of slate and a piece of chalk.
Internet ?
Pah.
Let's go back to a couple of baked bean tins and a length of string.
(Note to self, remember to empty and clean the tins first).
Better still,..... smoke signals.
If my new NAS isn't faster after all this, then I shall hold YOU, yes YOU, personally responsible, and get my sister-in-law solicitor to file charges.
.....Then again, maybe not. [emoji12]
I have a LOT of ethernet running around my house, and I am SO LOOKING FORWARD to ripping it all out and replacing it.
sorcerer
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In my humble experience as a cable jointer on BT for about 18 years or so, I would never terminate Cat5/e/6 or other in an RJ45 (or other) plug. Always terminate that on wall sockets and use patch leads with plugs already molded on to connect to them.
Ok, telephone cabling and wiring isn't computer wiring but the tools and principles are close enough.
Ok, telephone cabling and wiring isn't computer wiring but the tools and principles are close enough.
Agreed. I always prefer to use wall sockets or patch panels.
There are a few situations where it's just not practical though. In those cases, plugs are fine as long as you use the right ones. In fact, by not using a wall socket, you're reducing the number of connections by two, therefore, arguably, it could be said that a properly terminated solid conductor cable (fitted with the right type of plug) should actually be more reliable than a wall socket and patch cable, not less.
YeOldeStonecat
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Test the cabling first by using a couple of factory made short lengths...connect the NAS to your router/switch, and 1x computer...and do a transfer across virgin brand new cable...testing speeds.
Once confirmed you have good speeds, points the fingers to the old cable, now you can whip up new cable runs around the house.
When you purchase bulk ethernet cable....(spools)..typically it's solid. Stranded cable is what you see in factory made shorter runs...."patch cables"....as it's much more flexible.
YeOldeStonecat
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UTP is most common...you're good.
STP is not commonly used, it's used for situations where there is high levels of interference from sources of EMI...like if you're running ethernet through an area with lots of high voltage lines running along it, or running it inside of high powered machines/systems that emit lots of interference. Many guys that run cable will do a whole career without ever running STP. And the few that do, rarely even properly terminate it...(you have to ground the shielding strips that come out the end..else it's relatively useless).
STP is not commonly used, it's used for situations where there is high levels of interference from sources of EMI...like if you're running ethernet through an area with lots of high voltage lines running along it, or running it inside of high powered machines/systems that emit lots of interference. Many guys that run cable will do a whole career without ever running STP. And the few that do, rarely even properly terminate it...(you have to ground the shielding strips that come out the end..else it's relatively useless).
I hate that thing. At least now I know what it is called.
Markverhyden
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Cat 5e will generally test to GB standards if there are no complications related to the run, such as EMF interference or excessive distances. I leave my JDSU set to Cat6 and have never had it fail on a properly installed Cat5e run.
TAPtech
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The WD RED drives should give transfers well above 50! The Synology is a speed demon.
Suspect your network. To be honest I would be looking at that router. Easiest thing to do is just plug Synology -> switch <- computer.
Set static IP's and try transfer speed.
I would not be looking into jumbo frames for this issue, that's more of a tweaking area.
I try to eliminate CAT5 cables when is convenient and replace with CAT5e or CAT6. Usually the CAT5 is fine when it is short enough in length but I'd hate to risk it.
Suspect your network. To be honest I would be looking at that router. Easiest thing to do is just plug Synology -> switch <- computer.
Set static IP's and try transfer speed.
I would not be looking into jumbo frames for this issue, that's more of a tweaking area.
I try to eliminate CAT5 cables when is convenient and replace with CAT5e or CAT6. Usually the CAT5 is fine when it is short enough in length but I'd hate to risk it.
Well.......
I just installed my new (sliced and terminated) cat 6 cable, and I ran a test.
Copying a paragon custom boot disk (4 gig) from NAS to PC with old cable : 10 Meg/ second
Replaced cable with my new one. Uttered a silent.... And not so silent prayer and repeated the operation.
53 Meg/ second. !
Ok. Time to own up.
Upon checking the old cable, I discovered/ remembered I had cobbled it together from 3 separate , scrattiest cables, using female/female couplings. So, no wonder it was slow !
Hay ho. It's a strange world.
(At least I know which way round to wear my jeans.)
Edit.
Teracopy gave me that 50 MB/s reading.
Good ol win explorer tells me it is 110 MB/s
Seriously, I'm going to spend the night copying things !!!!!
I just installed my new (sliced and terminated) cat 6 cable, and I ran a test.
Copying a paragon custom boot disk (4 gig) from NAS to PC with old cable : 10 Meg/ second
Replaced cable with my new one. Uttered a silent.... And not so silent prayer and repeated the operation.
53 Meg/ second. !
Ok. Time to own up.
Upon checking the old cable, I discovered/ remembered I had cobbled it together from 3 separate , scrattiest cables, using female/female couplings. So, no wonder it was slow !
Hay ho. It's a strange world.
(At least I know which way round to wear my jeans.)
Edit.
Teracopy gave me that 50 MB/s reading.
Good ol win explorer tells me it is 110 MB/s
Seriously, I'm going to spend the night copying things !!!!!
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