Microsoft Security Essentials

Thats too bad about mse, looks like avira may be the best free av for right now. I love kaspersky, even avid porn surfers that we've helped are staying clean with it. Norton really surprises me, I agree the bloat is not what it used to be, but I'm still getting computers with updated current norton av and 360 that are terribly infected and norton didnt stop a thing. Thats the bad thing about these tests, each test has varying results for who works and who doesnt.
 
ive literally seen every antivirus available come in with viruses, norton, mcafee, kaspersky, trend micro, MSE, i hate to say it but as of right now NOTHING is stopping these viruses from infecting people
 
Well, as of now, I will no longer be recommending any free solutions. KIS is the first recommendation I put up, and if the machine isnt old and slow, I recommend MBAM or SAS on top of it.

Will watch MSSE and if the performance goes back up will recommend it again. Until then, I dont see myself doing any favours to customers advising them to use it. These detection rates are outright shoddy.
 
I take these sort of reports with a pinch of salt personally!

I've uses ESET for years and they've NEVER let me down even when I used to put clients drives onto my system , no problems yet they have a poor score in THIS report, and that's the point - it's this report ! Others are different. I don't think anymore that there is such a thing as independent reporting


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We've also used eset for years but it has been slipping lately.
Had 3 machines in just this week with up to date nod32 on them that had viruses.
Had two more calls late Friday also from nod32 users that will need to bring in their machines.
 
I have really liked Kapersky in the past and it has had a solid track record. However, over the past 5-6 months, we have been seeing a lot of "database corruption" issues with it. Norton has been decent for the most part. I just installed bitDefender this past week and am running it through the paces.

Finding one or two competent antivirus programs that stand the test of time is like playing a rapid game of merry-go-round to me. Just when I feel confident in a decent combination of several protection programs, they fall off the merry-go-round and get a concussion. Then I have to find new participants in the battle against evil, only to find out some antivirus programs have never even been close to getting on the merry-go-round or already arrived with a concussion.
 
To be honest, it really doesn't matter what AV you use anymore. The virus game changed, the AV makers didn't. They will either change, or soon be irrelevant.

The majority of my customers, by far, get infected from perfectly legitimate websites with infected advertising. Not porn, not warez, not email.

The best combination I've found so far is MSSE and Google Chrome for them. Firefox with NoScript works even better, but is way too hard to teach to most of my customers.

Rick
 
red12049 said:
To be honest, it really doesn't matter what AV you use anymore. The virus game changed, the AV makers didn't. They will either change, or soon be irrelevant.

The majority of my customers, by far, get infected from perfectly legitimate websites with infected advertising. Not porn, not warez, not email.

The best combination I've found so far is MSSE and Google Chrome for them. Firefox with NoScript works even better, but is way too hard to teach to most of my customers.

Rick
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I've been saying that for a long time and I very much agree...

Actually, I usually tell home users that AV effectiveness is very close across the board among the more popular apps, so it doesn't much matter which one you go with...

But wow now it's sad that MSSE went down so much - as I've been recommending it to home users just because it's free and *was* decent. :(

On the business side though, I have always recommended Trend Micro - because I have two long-time business clients that use(d) Trend Micro's corporate product with great success.

One has the version with Exchange integration, and I never see viruses on their systems but Trend's quarantine on the server is always littered with them. Ok maybe I see one infected domain pc a year...

The other has no server so they used the newer hosted solution, but they recently switched to MSSE as they are non-profit and broke... I never saw viruses on them until they switched to MSSE. :mad:
 
It is a shame that. I had recently been suggesting MSSE was the tool to go with (as an anti virus application as opposed to an internet security suite). Not looking so good now though. I would think however, that if any company has the clout and resources to turn it around it is Microsoft. It might be that the prevalence of the software means virus writers are targeting it specifically as it has increased market share recently?

Cathal
 
I've been recommending MSSE with MBAM Pro. MSSE alone just doesn't cut it. The two together so far have worked well for my clients who have come to me more than once with infections in the past.
 
The best acronym for antivirus is:

Doesn't matter how big of a raincoat you have, if you jump in a lake you'll still get wet.
 
This is why i recommend ESET or Kaspersky year after year they're always on top. They might not be #1 every year but they're in the running. As a technician its your job to know whats good and whats not. If you sell A/V you want the software to at-least hold up for the year they purchased it. It may cost more but you know the customers is satisfied. I use Kaspersky for all of my computer and never had a problem.
 
red12049 said:
The majority of my customers, by far, get infected from perfectly legitimate websites with infected advertising.
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I was baffled how some of my customers would get infected.. and embarrassed because some of them I had recommended specific security software for..

..until one day I got infected myself from MSN.com.

No joke.

I read an article.. clicked the 'comments' link.. BAM.. a big JAVA logo appears in the middle and I start getting fake security alerts.

I thought maybe someone's comment had Java code in it, but compromised ads sounds just as plausible.
 
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