Microsoft account access

[Porthos]

Wouldn't I then be able to login to locked out MS account?

Only if you were able to fix the password issue of the said MS acount.

 

[britechguy]

Only if you were able to fix the password issue of the said MS acount.

Yep. And if that's not done by now, my jaw is on the floor. Resetting a Microsoft account password, even in the "forgot password" situation, on microsoft.com is generally a slam dunk.

It's but one of the reasons I encourage my clients to use Microsoft Account linked Windows 10 User Accounts.

 

[fincoder]

PCUnlocker won't work either since this is a Microsoft Account with the password not saved locally.

Incorrect. PCUnlocker really does unlock microsoft account logins. It does it by forcing the login to local account. So then you can login to the same user profile, no need to create another local account at all.

 

[britechguy]

Incorrect. PCUnlocker really does unlock microsoft account logins. It does it by forcing the login to local account. So then you can login to the same user profile, no need to create another local account at all.

And it's also incorrect, as I stated earlier, to state that a Microsoft Account linked Windows 10 user account does not have a locally stored password. It absolutely does.

 

[fincoder]

And it's also incorrect, as I stated earlier

I wasn't replying to you. My post quotes Fred.

 

[britechguy]

I wasn't replying to you. My post quotes Fred.

I know that. Certain things, when quoted later, still require a response, as many do not read through topics from beginning to end.

The myth that all passwords, regardless of the account type under Windows 10, are not stored locally needs to be thoroughly dispelled.

 

[fincoder]

. Certain things, when quoted later, still require a response

I didn't mention password storage local or otherwise, so I'm still not sure why you responded to my post in that way. Twice now.

 

[britechguy]

I'm sorry that this forum does not multi-quote.

The initial post I responded to was your quotation of Fred Claus, which read, and I quote: "PCUnlocker won't work either since this is a Microsoft Account with the password not saved locally."

You quoted inaccurate information, and responded directly to same. I consider a post an atomic item, quoted material and all.

So you now know why, it's just that this forum software omitted the part you had quoted.

 

[fincoder]

OK, fair enough. I was focused on Fred's comment that PCUnlocker won't work on Microsoft accounts, and explaining how it works because others in this thread seem to think a new local account would be needed.

 

[Porthos]

OK, fair enough. I was focused on Fred's comment that PCUnlocker won't work on Microsoft accounts, and explaining how it works because others in this thread seem to think a new local account would be needed.

Here is a question, If the user does not have the needed credentials to reset the MS account for whatever reason, How would be able to use the MS account again even after you reset it to local?

 

[Sky-Knight]

Here is a question, If the user does not have the needed credentials to reset the MS account for whatever reason, How would be able to use the MS account again even after you reset it to local?

He wouldn't but after the account was converted to a local account, it can be linked to a new Microsoft account and resync all the stuff back into the cloud on the new account. Now... that happens at the cost of a loss of any paid products attached to the former account... and if there's a subscription in there the client gets to get a replacement credit card to stop it...

People really need to stop losing their accounts!

 

[britechguy]

OK, fair enough.

Thank you. I can understand your point entirely since the entirety of the context for my reply was not retained.

 

[frase]

When setting up a users PC, I always disable internet access and create a local account.
MS suck when trying to reallocate an account. Especially when the code is sent to an unused mobile. No other options available, it is such a stupid system I despise. Why is there not an email to send code to if one rings MS. They are a pain in the arse, have frustrated me many times on this issue.

 

[fincoder]

How would be able to use the MS account again even after you reset it to local?

The account is forced to local without password. The PC is therefore unlocked and the user can login to user profile and all their library folders and settings etc are retained in place.

Obviously the MS account is still a problem. I'm not sure whether OneDrive would be still active, most of my customers don't use it so I'm not sure if it still syncs using the saved account password. The customer might still need to sort out the MS account, but it's less urgent because their computer is functional.

 

[frase]

Well be welcome to a whole new world of MS recovery. It is basically impossible without correct information. They ask for one - mobile phone code, or is 2FA your basically stuffed. I would backup all data, N&P then setup to local account. Then restore data.

 

[britechguy]

What do you mean, doesn't multi-quote?

Unless you did it by hand, I can find absolutely no "built-in" mechanism for multi-quoting. These exist, and I use them, elsewhere (ToyotaNation.com, specifically) which is XenForo powered, too.

And, if you did do it by hand, are you just going into the BBCODE versions of the messages and copying?

 

[britechguy]

Some things go without saying.

I presume that the methods I needed to use in 1995 would be long gone, and utterly unnecessary, by now. I got an informative response from the support folks for this site, but even they admitted that it was, shall we say, tedious to accomplish something like you did for the example you posted.

I understand how one can do that, I fail to understand why it's necessary, specifically under XenForo.

 

[fincoder]

Well be welcome to a whole new world of MS recovery...I would backup all data, N&P then setup to local account. Then restore data.

Recovery of a MS forgotten account password, or gmail for that matter, can indeed be painful. We can only point our customers to the password recovery options via browser. But I don't understand why you'd nuke a system when you can just force the login account to local to unlock the computer (using PCUnlocker).

 

[frase]

My instance sorry, was due to an account linked to a phone no longer used. Yes generally I would use PCUnlocker, though in this case I N&P entire system. Setup new local account and restored data for new user. It just made things a lot easier and faster in the end result. Some may have other opinions, I just don't want to waste time.