I think I'm moving to Linux...

Kirby

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It's getting to be about time that I replace the PC on my desk, the main one I use every single day. But Windows 10 is just SO frigging annoying! No control over updates, constantly sending telemetry, and the ads! My god, the ads!

But I figured, hey, I could just fix all that stuff, right? I know the updates can be, at best, deferred, but I generally want updates anyway, although I trust Windows 10 updates to be in my best interest a WHOLE LOT LESS than I did with any previous version of Windows. So I thought I'd start with the ads. A Google search took me to this page: https://www.howtogeek.com/269331/how-to-disable-all-of-windows-10s-built-in-advertising/

I started browsing through it. TWELVE SECTIONS! There are TWELVE SECTIONS to remove ads from different parts of Windows. And that's just the FIRST annoying thing I had to fix!

I don't think I can do it. I don't think I can use Windows 10 without rage-quitting computers altogether. I have been known to rage-quit Linux before too, but at least with Linux I know that I can change ANYTHING I don't like. I may have to learn to code to do it, but it can be done. And since Windows 7 won't work with 7th (or 8th) gen processors, it's Windows 8.1 (which I hate even worse, but which can at least be tamed a little), Windows 10 or "not Windows". I think I'm going to have to go with "not Windows".

The thing is, I actually hate Linux. Can't stand it. It is the dumbest OS I've ever used. You have to use the command prompt for EVERYTHING and that is stupid in the 21st century. Computers aren't made from rocks and twigs any more. The command prompt should be dead. But Linux geeks who actually write the software can't get enough of it. And I understand. It's powerful. But how about a frigging context menu here and there? That is JUST as powerful for most common things. But I think I actually hate Linux less than Windows 10, and by a LOT. Maybe at first I'll do a second HD with Windows 8.1 or something. I have a code for that I never used. That way I don't spend 2 days Googleing the sixteen-mile-long command to do something which should be stupid-simple, like mounting a drive or changing the screen resolution when I really need to get it done so that I can move forward in the day's work.

Definitely won't do a dual boot. Only 3 things in the world can remove the Linux bootloader. They are the Linux installer, writing 0s to the hard drive and Windows Updates.

Ah, thinking of Linux takes me back. Dual boot system, first Linux install, wanted to mount the Windows partition. Did you know that the command "mkdosfs" not only is NOT the command you use to mount a DOS partition, it will also DESTROY a DOS partition in less time than it takes the neurons in your brain to say, "Wait...Should I have pressed Enter before thinking about that a little longer?"
 
I started browsing through it. TWELVE SECTIONS! There are TWELVE SECTIONS to remove ads from different parts of Windows. And that's just the FIRST annoying thing I had to fix!
I can fix all the annoying things about 10 in 2 minutes without using tools except PS to remove some apps. Heck I do it in my sleep on all machines I touch.
Of course I will never get those 2 minutes per machine of my life back. :(
 
First, look into ShutUp10.

Second, you could always consider a Mac.

Third, for most day-to-day use as a plain old desktop you can likely use a Linux box without ever needing to hit a shell. The fact that you're trying to go to the shell all the time and are unhappy about it puts you squarely into the "enough out-of-date knowledge to get into lots of trouble" category. Think what your reaction would be if in the XP days you were dealing with someone who insisted that he had to go to Command Prompt to do things like move files.
 
The thing is, I actually hate Linux. Can't stand it. It is the dumbest OS I've ever used. You have to use the command prompt for EVERYTHING and that is stupid in the 21st century. Computers aren't made from rocks and twigs any more. The command prompt should be dead. But Linux geeks who actually write the software can't get enough of it. And I understand. It's powerful. But how about a frigging context menu here and there? That is JUST as powerful for most common things.

What distro are you referring to? Plenty of them have GUI's that will cover pretty much anything a regular end user will need.

CLI? I was weaned on VMS so it's second nature. No matter what the OS is, one of the first things I'll bring up is CLI for troubleshooting, To get many answers, drilling down in the GUI is painful compared to using CLI.

Also, there is no real need for a boot manager. A decent laptop or desktop will easily run VM's unless you need direct access to the underlying hardware layer. Use what you need when you need it. I only keep a real Windoze laptop, a D630 running W7 Pro, for the serial port, cd burner and being able to run things like Chanalyzer and Wi-Spy.
 
I can fix all the annoying things about 10 in 2 minutes without using tools except PS to remove some apps. Heck I do it in my sleep on all machines I touch.
Of course I will never get those 2 minutes per machine of my life back. :(
...and then MS release version XX blah blah and suddenly all your changes have been reversed...
 
Linux is...pretty terrible. Unless all you need to do is browse the internet, you can forget about using Linux. It has a hodgepodge of different software available, most of which isn't actively developed and if it is, you can't expect support for long. Mac OS has the exact same problem, but at least the major software companies make versions for Mac OS. My preferred OS's, from most to least favorite are:

1. Windows
2. Mac OS
3. Chrominium
4. Linux

It's pretty bad when you'd rather run a Chromebook than a Linux machine, but here we are 20 years later and Linux STILL has ZERO traction in the market. At least Chromebooks use Google's online "software" so it won't become obsolete in 6 months, and an update won't come along and wipe out all your data stored in your weird off the wall customer management software in Linux.
 
The thing is, I actually hate Linux. Can't stand it. It is the dumbest OS I've ever used. You have to use the command prompt for EVERYTHING and that is stupid in the 21st century.
After your attempt to build a Linux HTPC, documented (and ranted over) elsewhere, perhaps you need a change of career.
 
Linux is...pretty terrible. Unless all you need to do is browse the internet, you can forget about using Linux. It has a hodgepodge of different software available, most of which isn't actively developed and if it is, you can't expect support for long. Mac OS has the exact same problem, but at least the major software companies make versions for Mac OS. My preferred OS's, from most to least favorite are:

1. Windows
2. Mac OS
3. Chrominium
4. Linux

It's pretty bad when you'd rather run a Chromebook than a Linux machine, but here we are 20 years later and Linux STILL has ZERO traction in the market. At least Chromebooks use Google's online "software" so it won't become obsolete in 6 months, and an update won't come along and wipe out all your data stored in your weird off the wall customer management software in Linux.
Reading this it's Its fairly obvious you have either never used Linux or have little knowledge of Linux.
Your talking through your hat!
 
I used to be 100% Linux until I started this occupation. (I figured I better eat and drink what my customers do....) I can count on one hand the times I had to drop to command line over the course of a year.

Linux terrible? 0% traction? Dude! - Linux runs Android, the Internet, so much business and the research world just to name a few. Windows is the bastion of the helpless consumer. (...and don't even get me started about how I can control updates in Linux unlike some other OSs.)
 
I figured I better eat and drink what my customers do.

That's what drove my first laptop migration to Windows 10 - it was going to happen, and better to be ahead of it and know what's coming to customers than behind and start learning when there were problems.

For the medical world, I used to tell people "I'd love to be able to drop in a server with no per-seat licensing fees, etc. and I could come close to doing so except for your need to work with the hospitals and an EMR." These days I really could do that - all the hospitals now just use Citrix instead of ActiveX-based portals, and a bunch of the EMRs are entirely browser-based using standards rather than "IE Standards."

Heck, the customer we're closing out with due to an acquisition is running their old system in parallel with the new Chromebook-based one for a few more weeks, then they're likely to pull out almost all the equipment we had in there and just run with the Chromebooks accessing Epic. I just wish they were going to hand it all back to us to "recycle" because I could use a T460 or T450s.
 
@Kirby get a Mac. Seriously. The software works well and is consistent. You can run VMware Fusion or Parallels and have whatever Windows OS you need on hand for testing. Best of both worlds.
 
I'll take MacOS over Linux any day. Much more polished and mainstream. But I sill run Windows. I grew up with Windows. Started with Windows 95 back when I was 6. XP was good. Hated Vista. Found a new XP in 7. Not really fond of Windows 10 but I run it on my work computers and laptop since I have to keep with the times. Still running Windows 7 at home. I also dual boot hackintosh but haven't used it in quite a while. Once I get a second machine going at home I think it will be a hackintosh. Gotta keep the Windows rig for gaming. Not like I do too much of that anymore. Just a hour here or there. I kinda go through phases like playing WoW all the time to playing Rust for a month or two, Minecraft, Insurgency,etc. Then I get into the "don't really play games" phase where I only play for a few hours a week vs 10-20 or more.

It does sound like you have some outdated linux experience. Even 10+ years ago with Ubuntu you could do a lot with the GUI. Most distros have some kind of package manager to search for apps and install from the GUI. But some good old sudo apt-get install never hurt anyone.

I think I'm just so used to the Windows GUI and how it operates that I really don't want to use anything else.

Personally on all my Windows 10 machines I use a start menu replacement like Startisback or classic shell to give me a Windows 7 style (with a flat Win 10 looking skin of course) start menu. That's about the only place I've ever noticed ads in Windows 10.
 
You peeps should really consider going Windows 10 Pro - The Ads and annoyances of the 'consumer' OS are much more limited and you gain some control over the crap, built-in control. I postpone my updates for long periods and Windows 10 Pro seems to leave me alone fairly well. My start menu HAS NOT been inundated with silly games and stuff during the larger updates, unlike my Home customers.

Honestly, I'm pretty happy with 10 Pro. It's a necessary evil for sure.
 
All my Windows 10 are pro. I only run pro editions :) However there are games and stuff pinned by default in the start menu but I never see that since I using Classic shell or startisback. I think I want to buy another startisback license since its start menu looks native.
 
All my Windows 10 are pro. I only run pro editions :) However there are games and stuff pinned by default in the start menu but I never see that since I using Classic shell or startisback. I think I want to buy another startisback license since its start menu looks native.
Startisback is the best.
 
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