I like Vista
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gunslinger
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In the real world vista is absolutely not better than Windows XP. As I said before, benchmarks can be made to say pretty much whatever you want them to say. And I think it's odd that so many people in so many companies like PC mag are coming up with benchmarks That say XP is better than vista. If Windows vista was indeed faster than XP wouldn't the benchmarks be more consistent across the board?
You say as computer technicians we should not be biased toward one product or another. My job as an honest computer technician is to steer people away from what I perceive to be bad products. I perceive Norton Internet security to be a bad product. Therefore, I steer my customers away from it. I see Microsoft Windows vista as being a bad product ,as well, therefore I steer my customers away from it.
I do not hate Microsoft. I own several Microsoft products including Office 2008 for the Mac, and office 2007 for the PC. I think the Xbox is great. But I also think that Microsoft dropped the ball when it comes to Windows vista. I think they threw out an inferior product just to be the first to market. I still think that Microsoft basically beta tested vista on the public for the past year or so. Windows vista, is right now about were Windows XP was its first month out.
I am a computer guy also, not a Linux guy, not a Mac guy, not a Windows guy. But at the same time, I still remember my regular user roots. Sometimes power users forget what it's like to have a computer that just works and does what you want it to do. Without having to tweak it for hack the registry. That's one reason why Linux is not more popular than it is. You have to play with it constantly to get it to work correctly. The more you have to play with the operating system and tweak it to make it work correctly. The further away from the regular user, you get. Also I have noticed that things that you could tweak to make Windows XP much faster have been taken out of Windows vista, or they completely destroy the operating system should you change them. So the power user has also been excluded from this newest rendition of the Microsoft OS.
I guess for the time being, we will just have to agree to disagree on the subject of Microsoft Windows vista. I personally made the switch to a Mac book, because of Windows vista. I now dual-boot Mac OSX and Windows XP Pro service pack three. This setup does everything that I need it to do, and works 100% of the time without errors and without fail. I do think Windows vista has come a long way in the past year. Who knows with another service pack and a few dozen more updates it my actually work the way I think it should.
As for Automator in OSX , I completely agree it is probably the most underrated program there is for the Mac. I don't have much experience with it yet, but it seems to be a very powerful program that will definitely speed up the workflow.
You say as computer technicians we should not be biased toward one product or another. My job as an honest computer technician is to steer people away from what I perceive to be bad products. I perceive Norton Internet security to be a bad product. Therefore, I steer my customers away from it. I see Microsoft Windows vista as being a bad product ,as well, therefore I steer my customers away from it.
I do not hate Microsoft. I own several Microsoft products including Office 2008 for the Mac, and office 2007 for the PC. I think the Xbox is great. But I also think that Microsoft dropped the ball when it comes to Windows vista. I think they threw out an inferior product just to be the first to market. I still think that Microsoft basically beta tested vista on the public for the past year or so. Windows vista, is right now about were Windows XP was its first month out.
I am a computer guy also, not a Linux guy, not a Mac guy, not a Windows guy. But at the same time, I still remember my regular user roots. Sometimes power users forget what it's like to have a computer that just works and does what you want it to do. Without having to tweak it for hack the registry. That's one reason why Linux is not more popular than it is. You have to play with it constantly to get it to work correctly. The more you have to play with the operating system and tweak it to make it work correctly. The further away from the regular user, you get. Also I have noticed that things that you could tweak to make Windows XP much faster have been taken out of Windows vista, or they completely destroy the operating system should you change them. So the power user has also been excluded from this newest rendition of the Microsoft OS.
I guess for the time being, we will just have to agree to disagree on the subject of Microsoft Windows vista. I personally made the switch to a Mac book, because of Windows vista. I now dual-boot Mac OSX and Windows XP Pro service pack three. This setup does everything that I need it to do, and works 100% of the time without errors and without fail. I do think Windows vista has come a long way in the past year. Who knows with another service pack and a few dozen more updates it my actually work the way I think it should.
As for Automator in OSX , I completely agree it is probably the most underrated program there is for the Mac. I don't have much experience with it yet, but it seems to be a very powerful program that will definitely speed up the workflow.
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Vista crashed
Well I had to reinstall Vista this past weekend, on my daughter's laptop. She had automatic updates set and an update caused the system to crash. I tried restoring with no success. I tried booting from a Linix bootcd, no HD found. I tried using Bart's PE, no drive found. I just got no boot device found. So I ended up reinstalling from the Dell DVD. I turned off auto updates and now shes running fine. That's just 2 months since the laptop purchase. I should add that my daughter is not the most security cautious user. I always hound her about using Limewire & keeping her Anti-viru\Spyware programs updated. Like most teens she rolls the eyes and ignores my advice, until the PC crashes.
Well I had to reinstall Vista this past weekend, on my daughter's laptop. She had automatic updates set and an update caused the system to crash. I tried restoring with no success. I tried booting from a Linix bootcd, no HD found. I tried using Bart's PE, no drive found. I just got no boot device found. So I ended up reinstalling from the Dell DVD. I turned off auto updates and now shes running fine. That's just 2 months since the laptop purchase. I should add that my daughter is not the most security cautious user. I always hound her about using Limewire & keeping her Anti-viru\Spyware programs updated. Like most teens she rolls the eyes and ignores my advice, until the PC crashes.
14049752
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You probably could have just used the Vista Recovery disc. You can do a repair on the system using that cd or the original vista dvd.
Wheelie
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If the Vista recovery disk has the operating files "stripped away" I guess you can boot to a command prompt. What would you have done to repair the Vista problem he had? (note: he had the Dell Vista DVD)
In other words: it's not clear to me what the recovery disk does.
In other words: it's not clear to me what the recovery disk does.
14049752
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Using either disk, Vista's installer (Which is essentially what the recovery disc is) has an option to repair the OS. It repairs the boot sector, does chkdsk, removes bad drivers, repairs the registry, etc. It's handy, because you can just click a couple of buttons, have it scan, and then automatically fix things if it can.
It's *not* a full out repair installation, though.
It's *not* a full out repair installation, though.
chel_in_il
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I too have been running Vista since it first came out. I run it on a laptop that I use 8+ hours a day, and rarely EVERY have a problem.
I support 25+ networks, some of which have Vista clients. All of their Vista machines run well. The only issue is the occasional incompatibility with some software, especially older printer drivers and devices (have a client with an old Intel LanPress print sharing device - doesn't work), and specialized software. I'm always upfront when I sell a PC; I research the software they use, and warn the client of the potential issues with their custom software.
Michelle
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Ah. Good find. Went out and looked it up on the net. I did not know about this. Thanks for pointing this tool out to us!!
Thanks for the input. I tried using the DVD for recovery and restore to previous state. Neither worked for me. The auto repair utility did not fix any of the problem, in fact it seemed to make things worse. I was able to see the drive until the repair utility "fixed" it. I was not wanting to spend alot of time on this. I just wanted to recover some pictures, and reinstall Vista. I tried using the bootdisks (Knoppix, Bart's PE) for recovery, however the HD was not recognized. Luckily, during a reinstall, Vista creates a folder called "Windows.old" and there she could pull her pics & docs from there.
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