Homeland Security Investing Repair Shops

[acesdeals]

i get a lot of refurbished parts ie; lasers, dvd drives, usb ports etc; from overseas for phones, tablets, game consoles

now they dont have the company name on it, but they may have the same model # on it

but that goes back to the fact that you cant get a lot of these parts from the manufacturer so you have to get it from china

so again the rich get richer and anybody else is SOL

 

[dragonflyscales]

Don't they have "real" bad guys to catch?

They do, yes, but do they? No.

The police force in the United States is concerned with one thing and one thing only (I speak for the majority of course , I am aware not all officers are ****** ppl) and that is the acquisition of more and more money.

The sheriffs are pressured by the government to meet monthly quotas of certain amounts of arrests and money that they must meet or they will loose their jobs.

This combined with the racist "war against drugs" (which is actually a war against minorities and the poor) enables the police to acquire property by theft, sell it, throw the person they stole from in jail, and act like nothing ever happened.

I'm not sure if this ipod / smart phone confiscation is rare, but I know the tactics these thugs use to intimidate and steal from ppl and this just sounds, to me, like typical police behavior here in the states.

 

[twincountycomputers]

Didn't the auto industry in the US try the same thing a while back in lobbying to get a bill passed that it was illegal to take a vehicle to a repair shop that wasn't licensed by the manufacturer?

 

[Tony_Scarpelli]

wow what a joke. I guess that's pretty much case closed on me ever wanting to fix an apple product lol. From what I understand from this video though, the one shop owner to me....didn't sound like he was advertising as "genuine apple parts" he just said he was ordering them online from a vendor in California.

Not to worry, if Detroit couldn't stop cheap Japanese parts coming in to fix chevys then neither will apple.

You just cannot claim to use genuine apple parts.

I do not believe they can take your parts to repair if you are not claiming they are apple genuine parts.

 

[mr m]

I think Tony_S nailed it. Apple can't stop you from repairing their devices as long as you don't claim to be an authorized repair facility or sell genuine Apple parts.

It's poetic justice that on one hand they outsource sorely needed manufacturing jobs to China but get bit in the other hand by those same reverse engineering pirates.

 

[SAG]

I think Tony_S nailed it. Apple can't stop you from repairing their devices as long as you don't claim to be an authorized repair facility or sell genuine Apple parts.

It's poetic justice that on one hand they outsource sorely needed manufacturing jobs to China but get bit in the other hand by those same reverse engineering pirates.

That's what I said about 15 posts ago.
http://www.technibble.com/forums/showpost.php?p=368166&postcount=9

 

[mr m]

That's what I said about 15 posts ago.
http://www.technibble.com/forums/showpost.php?p=368166&postcount=9

My bad! Gold star for you too!

 

[SAG]

My bad! Gold star for you too!

Wasn't looking for Kudos.
Or maybe I was. I can be shallow at times.

I was just pointing out that, like most internet conversations, once a certain mindset in a thread starts that it will continue down that route no matter what.

Just like how all internet arguments end up with Nazi references.
Or when just two people in a thread are going at it "reading comprehension" is brought up.

But hey, I'll take my kudos.

 

[preemo]

As much as I was to say "yeah that's right" - the crime here is not the repair of devices with these parts, it's possession of these parts. The claim they are making is that these parts have been counterfeited (because they have) from Apple's patented/trademarked parts. Thus - by purchasing them, and possessing them, you are committing a crime.

 

[Vyper28]

Never had any complaints from homeland security, but I have 4 letters from microsoft saying that we passed the secret shopper test about pirated windows!

 

[Tony_Scarpelli]

Premo,

I used to have an appartment 87th NW by the Miami airport....dated a cuban girl for a few years. That was about 2001.

Yea, I think everyone should remove i repairs from their ads, and menus and just let it be a requested service so not to attract those detectives.

Hit hard repair everything, screens for nearly all devices and such but do not mention apple at all.

they will bust a few guys now and then to get everyones attention and then it settles back down to business as usual.

Now we know it is on their hit list we need to back away from advertising apple repairs.

 

[Tucson Techie]

what if an iPhone repair shop were to post a disclaimer on its website and somewhere in the shop stating that all parts used in the repair of Apple iPhones are Not genuine Apple parts but after-market. Would this be enough to prevent being charged with this type of "crime"? It seems to me the issue is with a repair company "misleading" the consumer either by stating that the repair parts are genuine Apple or having merchandise with the Apple trademark or logo that were not made by Apple. This would mean getting rid of any battery door covers with the Apple logo and using blank backs instead, which the customers wouldn't like, but it's not worth becoming the victim of one of these ludicrous corporate witch hunts.

I have been asked before by customers if the parts I use are genuine Apple and I always say, No. It is not possible for anyone, myself included, to purchase these parts direct from Apple.

 

[carrcomp]

Becuse reading the rest of the conversastion, it's stated that the problem isn't weather you say they are or not, it's that the parts are built with trademarked stuff.

 

[Tucson Techie]

How are the parts built with trade marked stuff? Not sure what you mean.

If this is the case then after market auto parts would be illegal. I think having after market iPhone parts with the Apple logo is the main reason this guy got raided.

 

[carrcomp]

How are the parts built with trade marked stuff? Not sure what you mean.

If this is the case then after market auto parts would be illegal. I think having after market iPhone parts with the Apple logo is the main reason this guy got raided.

http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wirele...nd-security-participates-trademark-raid.shtml

So ..... this article seems to hit the point.

It's not just apple logo'd parts they are looking for, they are trying to shut down "unauthorized apple repair shops" using "unlicenced parts"

 

[nlinecomputers]

The iPhone parts are patented, trademarked, and copy protected. A spark plug is just a spark plug. The back of an iPhone is a unique part protected under patent laws.

 

[carrcomp]

The iPhone parts are patented, trademarked, and copy protected. A spark plug is just a spark plug. The back of an iPhone is a unique part protected under patent laws.

I'm agreeing with you.

Must not have been clear ... they don't care what logo is on it. They designed the part.

 

[Tucson Techie]

Wouldn't various after market automobile parts fall under the same definition of "unauthorized." yet major retailers carry them.

 

[compnet]

The iPhone parts are patented, trademarked, and copy protected. A spark plug is just a spark plug. The back of an iPhone is a unique part protected under patent laws.

Patent law is not there to protect a manufacturer's right to repair, its to protect someone from selling a separate product that is the same as yours.

A spark plug is a spark plug, but a bumper or fender is unique and there are plenty of 3rd party auto body companies.

There is no problem here other than apple is run by douches.. from the sound of the article this could all be about apple trying to spin the exploding iphone incidents into the fault of 3rd party repair.

They are running out of fresh ideas and if you fix their disposable toy for a reasonable price nobody will by the mild upgrade they just released. We are messing with their planned obsolescence and they will throw their billions around trying to stop us.

 

[Tucson Techie]

In the article originally linked to, It quotes Apple as saying, "according to An Apple spokesman, only Apple authorized Repair centers Can use Apple parts With the Apple logo."

Who ever heard of a vendor getting busted for selling counterfeit shoes or handbags when those shoes or handbags did not have a fake Nike swoosh or Gucci logo? As I mentioned before, the trademarked Apple logo seems to be the major justification behind their claim to consumer deception and copyright infringement. Not the fact that the patented design was copied by a third party manufacturer.