Errors after cloning.

[GTP]

Win 10. Business client. CANNOT WIPE and Reload! They have obscure software that they cannot reinstall
I imaged and fabs'd a 3 TB Seagate drive that is showing errors on the drive.
I have cloned the drive, which completed without error, but after 2 cloning attempts I get the same error:

"Your PC needs to be repaired.
A required device isn't connected or can't be accessed."
Error code: 0xc000000e

I've booted from a Win 10 USB to run bootrec.exe.
Running bootrec /fixmbr is successful, but I get an "access is denied" error trying to run bootrec.exe /fixboot.

bootrec /rebuildbcd finds 1 Windows installation but if I type "y" it errors with "the requested system device cannot be found".

iv'e run diskpart with:
sel disk 0
list vol
sel vol 0
assign letter = C
exit

cd /d :\EFI\Microsoft\Boot returns error "the system cannot find the path specified"

bootrec /fixboot give Access denied error again

It's a GPT partitioning scheme with C, (Windows RE) D (Windows) E, (unassigned) F, (Recovery Im), System (unasigned), G (Unasigned hidden) H, Unasigned.

Any help appreciated.

 

[Diggs]

You cloned? With what? Try something else. If I have problems with a clone I'll try another piece of software but have pretty much settled on Reflect as it handles the 5 partition drives the best (IMHO).

 

[GTP]

I used AOMEI Backupper first then EaseUS Disk Copy Wizard. (Which has a "clone" function).
3TB Drive takes about 7 hrs to do each clone.

EaseUS rebooted and did the clone offline.

I could try a dozen tools but they want it back tomorrow! It's now 11.03 PM here!

 

[MichaelBits]

Did you run a chkdsk on the clone?

 

[GTP]

Did you run a chkdsk on the clone?

No but I will.
Thx

 

[Diggs]

Aomei doesn't handle 5 partition drives for me well reliably at all. Try Macrium Reflect. Should take care of these problems.

 

[GTP]

Running chkdsk didn't help.

Just purchased Macrium Reflect v 7.1.3196

Set it up to clone.
11.45 pm here now. I'm going to bed - so it can run all night.
I hope it works!

 

[Porthos]

I never clone, I image with Macrium.
Macrium has a fix boot feature in the recovery disk as well make one and boot from it and use the fix boot feature.

 

[Larry Sabo]

I've used Macrium Reflex's free (for private and commercial use) version to fix borked startups after AOMEI and it did a super job. Not every time, but many times.

 

[DataMedics]

Why buy cloning software when ddrescue is free and better than any of them when you know what you're doing.

 

[Diggs]

Why buy cloning software when ddrescue is free and better than any of them when you know what you're doing.

Because you can't clone down with DDrescue. It needs the same size or bigger drive.

 

[Diggs]

I never clone, I image with Macrium.
Macrium has a fix boot feature in the recovery disk as well make one and boot from it and use the fix boot feature.

Again, I thought you cannot resize the drive using an image, just cloning. I'm not sure I have checked this out in Macrium but Aomie and a few others are that way.

 

[DataMedics]

Downsizing, no. Not unless you shrink the partition(s) first to fit. Going to a larger size is fine, you've just got to expand the partition afterward.

For downsizing, I generally will use a tool like Paragon SSD migration tool.

But, the OP said nothing about downsizing, just that he wasn't getting a working clone. A tool like ddrescue is much more aware of issues like bad sectors than Windows software tends to be. So you'll usually get a better result.

 

[HCHTech]

Why buy cloning software when ddrescue is free and better than any of them when you know what you're doing.

I think the last 6 words are the important ones. I've used ddrescue successfully on and off for years, but still don't really feel comfortable with it. My goto is Acronis, right or wrong, but there is support, forums, etc. behind it. Being good with ddrescue is like an elite club, and membership doesn't come cheap or easy. Somewhere there needs to be a big flowshart so it's easier to find the commands you want if you have situation X, or Y, or Z. Or if during an image X happens, or Y happens, or Z happens. Or if you have a complete image but now want to do X or Y or Z. There are lots of permutations and figuring out how to proceed most-efficiently in any one of them is always the hardest part of using ddrescue. IMO, anyway.

 

[Diggs]

Macrium Reflect takes a 500 GB 5-partition HDD and with a couple of clicks clones it to a 120 GB SSD. Done! I've been through quite a few cloning programs/apps (including Clonezilla). Macrium is the best I found for what I need.

 

[DataMedics]

Macrium Reflect takes a 500 GB 5-partition HDD and with a couple of clicks clones it to a 120 GB SSD. Done! I've been through quite a few cloning programs/apps (including Clonezilla). Macrium is the best I found for what I need.

Who would want a 120Gb SSD split up into 5 partitions?

 

[Porthos]

I don't have the need to clone for the most part. If a drive has issues I would not want a clone. (Clean install on the replacement drive) 97% of the computers I see do not have anything special on the drive that can not be reinstalled. Failing drives that cannot be fab's are sent to data recovery.

IF I have to downsize to a SSD I repartition the drive before imaging.

 

[Diggs]

Who would want a 120Gb SSD split up into 5 partitions?

Hmm..... We're not communicating well I see..... Win10 UEFI requires the 5-partition drive. It's not about who would want it.......

As I've mentioned before, all my "Tuneup/Speedups" include an SSD. 95% of the residential market fits nicely on 120 GB. (Windows 10 install in 30 GB (even with the UEFI 5-partitions) and most residential users have 3-15 GB of "stuff". They've had their old computer for 4-5 years so their "stuff" isn't getting bigger faster. A 120 GB SSD gives them 60 GB to use in the future. I don't do an up-sell for an SSD. No discussion. They get one no matter what. (Not talking about movie and music collectors here.) They are in awe when they get their old machines back with Win10 on an SSD. Do you not have a history of customer FAB folder sizes? Anything over 20 GB is very unusual.

 

[DataMedics]

D. Do you not have a history of customer FAB folder sizes? Anything over 20 GB is very unusual.

I only deal in data recovery, and many of my customers have well in the 1Tb+ of data. But, I'm not generally dealing with little old ladies who just use their computer to check their checking balance. I work for people who've got data worth paying to recover.

 

[lcoughey]

Just for the record, a clone is a perfect sector-by-sector copy of a drive. If the source drive has a billion sectors, it is impossible to make an exact clone to another drive that doesn't also have at least a billion sectors. Software that downsizes is actually automating the process of creating new partitions and copying files from one drive to the other, relying on a healthy file table and bitmap to identify the sectors to be copied. If there are file system issues on the source drive, it stands to reason that those issues are going to result in the same issues and possibly more issues due to sectors with data that were left behind.

In the case of the OP, the drive has a file system issue. So, it would make more sense to get a full sector-by-sector copy of the drive, to ensure that no data is left behind. If you are just migrating a known healthy file system from a healthy spinner to a smaller SSD, it is then that it makes sense to use a program like Acronis.