'putertutor
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Unfortunately, the issue of Climate Change/Global Warming, has become far too political in the last decade or so. It boggles my mind that anyone would listen to a government paper pusher who has little to no scientific training or acumen, over a scientist who spends their entire career studying one thing (climate on this case). The reason we have experts is to listen to them.
For me, the answer is clear, the data is in. According to better than 99% of those who truly know their climate stuff, climate change/global warming is real, it is man made, and it is having a real effect on out environment and economy. There will always be the few who disagree, especially within scientific communities, that is normal and desirable. But in this subject, even those who disagree have mostly been shown to be incorrect either because they are using bad data, or because they are flat out fabricating it without any research. In the history of the scientific method, this may be the most agreed upon topic within scientific communities. EVER! My favorite analogy is that if you go see 100 doctors and 99 tell you that you have a completely operable tumor and removing it will save your life but not removing it will hasten your death, why would you follow the advice of one doctor who disagreed with them and tells you to do nothing?? Makes no sense.
And on the global warming vs climate change terms... those of you saying that the change was just for political correctness, you are not exactly right. The scientific community saw that there was confusion about the issue based in part on the term they used to describe it. Climate change started getting used to mitigate that confusion, but the science and conclusions behind it are exactly the same. The *average* global temperatures are rising. The studies have always indicated that temperatures will fluctuate within regions, with some getting cooler. The overall effect though is that the world is warming and you anecdotal (means unscientific) reports of cold weather are meaningless on this topic.
TechLady is also 100% correct. Even if this is a conspiracy of unbelievable proportions, why don't we make changes simply because it is good economics. It would create new jobs in the thousands to take some of the actions recommended. It could only help our economy and our environment to do so. How in the world is anyone against that?
Sorry for the rant, but why in the hell do we have scientists and experts if we aren't going to listen to them when they speak?
For me, the answer is clear, the data is in. According to better than 99% of those who truly know their climate stuff, climate change/global warming is real, it is man made, and it is having a real effect on out environment and economy. There will always be the few who disagree, especially within scientific communities, that is normal and desirable. But in this subject, even those who disagree have mostly been shown to be incorrect either because they are using bad data, or because they are flat out fabricating it without any research. In the history of the scientific method, this may be the most agreed upon topic within scientific communities. EVER! My favorite analogy is that if you go see 100 doctors and 99 tell you that you have a completely operable tumor and removing it will save your life but not removing it will hasten your death, why would you follow the advice of one doctor who disagreed with them and tells you to do nothing?? Makes no sense.
And on the global warming vs climate change terms... those of you saying that the change was just for political correctness, you are not exactly right. The scientific community saw that there was confusion about the issue based in part on the term they used to describe it. Climate change started getting used to mitigate that confusion, but the science and conclusions behind it are exactly the same. The *average* global temperatures are rising. The studies have always indicated that temperatures will fluctuate within regions, with some getting cooler. The overall effect though is that the world is warming and you anecdotal (means unscientific) reports of cold weather are meaningless on this topic.
TechLady is also 100% correct. Even if this is a conspiracy of unbelievable proportions, why don't we make changes simply because it is good economics. It would create new jobs in the thousands to take some of the actions recommended. It could only help our economy and our environment to do so. How in the world is anyone against that?
Sorry for the rant, but why in the hell do we have scientists and experts if we aren't going to listen to them when they speak?