Datto acquired by Kasaya

Yep... all hands ABANDON SHIP!

And SHOCK calls to my Datto rep go unanswered and into an unbranded voicemail box. So even my rep seems to have gotten the memo. So glad I don't have anything left in there. But I might have to get my CC replaced so they one they have on file doesn't get Kaseya billed something.
 
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Yeah, not happy about this.
At least it explains why Dattos stock (MSP) finally climbed last week..."some" people were apparently privy to this news.

I'll reach out to an Axcient rep...they seem to be the next closest service to Datto. I won't abandon ship yet, will see how Datto goes...or rather, will see if Kaseya doesn't stick its fingers into Datto too deep...hopefully.

We've been with Datto since their first year out, they're based in my state, been to their HQ a few times in the early years. Love the product very much, it's proven itself over..and over..and over..and over...to us and our clients.

We also have some clients on Datto Workplace (the cloud storage)....and we use the SaaS (formerly BackupIfy)...for quite a few 365 clients (others on DropSuite). So there's 3x products we use Datto for...but the majority...on the BDR services...a LOT on that.

Yup, this makes 2x of our main tech stack ingredients subject to change in one month, Untangle...and now, Datto.
 
The consolidation continues. Pretty soon I foresee only about 2 companies left, Kaseya and Connectwise. I hope one or two smaller ones stay around.
 
Kaseya would be wise given their track record to leave certain parts of Datto untouched. I have to assume they will eventually want to converge similar offerings like Datto RMM and VSA because why have to maintain them both? I can only imagine when that happens it will be a huge mess.
 
Kaseya would be wise given their track record to leave certain parts of Datto untouched. I have to assume they will eventually want to converge similar offerings like Datto RMM and VSA because why have to maintain them both? I can only imagine when that happens it will be a huge mess.

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And Datto stock soars! Up 20% just today and climbing. And last week there was a rare gain, esp the end of the week.
Just gotta figure out when to sell the remainder of my MSP stock....it'll peak soon, and then fall a little....
 
I've replaced Datto in my stack with Synology, most of my clients were too cheap for Datto anyway. I'm familiar with Axient too, so I'll just recommend that for the high end.

This morning I sent an email to my "Datto Rep", who has never responded to me in any meaningful way to close my account, and lose my payment details. I want my CC OUT of their system before Kaseya has a chance to bill me for anything. I will do no business with Kaseya ever, they're on my never list right next to Comodo.

Also, if Kaseya has a brain it'll throw away VSA and leave Autotask alone, it's an objective upgrade all across the board.
 
Would you mind repeating how you use Synology products to replicate what Datto can do? I know you've discussed it before. Thanks.
It doesn't do everything, but it does enough. Synology Backup for Business does image based backups, and can pull data from either agents or directly from a hypervisor just like Datto works. It can then replicate via Hyper Backup to another Synology, or to an offisite data bucket.

The larger units can actually restore to a VM and use the Synology as an emergency hypervisor too, all for prices akin or lower than Datto wants for the magic box, and no monthly payment.

While at the same time they can backup entire M365 or GSuite tenants... no per user fees... no fees at all.
 
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I'm not ready to replace Datto yet, it's such a fantastic product, and a big money maker for us.

I will probably switch to Axcient if we do have to change, as Axcient seems to be the closest "service" to Datto as far as features, for quite a bit less money than Datto.

Synologies product is cool, decent, but...we want a full service that has its own top notch, fast support. One of the reasons we loved Datto...have an issue, open a ticket, they remote in and work their magic. Really very little time spent by us doing anything but collecting the MRR..and looking like heros when the crap hits the fan and we let Datto do what it does during the emergency....happy clients typically will say "Yeah, it's expensive, but worth it...thank you!"

Cashed out my Datto stock yesterday. I had bought a good amount back at the IPO (think it was $27/per then), it had mostly been on a steady, close decline for the most part. At one point last year it did climb back to its IPO price...and which point I cashed out half of it to get that money back. So the last half I was letting it ride. I obviously missed the news about a month ago regarding a private firm was interested in purchasing Datto...some people read that did bit and bought a trunkload of Datto stock, and did very well yesterday. But the last bit I had, sold yesterday at $34.upper change. Took that and got more AMD stock since they're sorta "on sale" now. (it's pretty low now due to low production with the clamp downs happening on factories again due to latest COVID outbreak over there)
 
Emailed my Datto rep to close my account and confirm my payment details were removed from their system on Monday at 9:06am.

Alexis Kennerly, my rep at 4:42 pm today (~32hours)

Hi Rob,

Datto is still operating independently and our partners still have the same trusted relationships they have always had with us here. I'm committed to keeping all of my partners informed in the months ahead on our progress and on the many new opportunities we're continuously generating. I do hope you'll consider the details but I am truly sorry to hear you are no longer interested in service with Datto. We're currently working on having your CC removed. Let me know if I can assist with anything else.

Thank you!

She obviously opened a ticket with support to facilitate my request... which was responded to about an hour later. Now 5:57pm.

Subject: Partner wants us to remove their Credit Card from Netsuite, and to "purge all of their data off of our systems" due to the recent Kaseya purchase.
Case Owner: Jeremy Linggoputro

Hello Rob,

Thank you for being this to our attention.

Regarding the removal of your client's credit card, you will need to reach out to either your sales representative, Alexis Kennerly (akennerly@datto.com) or your Product Success Manager, Andrew Pinto (akennerly@datto.com) as here in support, we do not have the ability to change billing details for partners. I do apologise for any inconvenience.

As for the purge of all data, am I correct to say that your client no longer wishes to use any of our BCDR products? Please correct me if I am wrong.

If that is the case, you would need to do through our Decommissioning a BCDR device KB article below. The article will guide you on how to delete all the data on the Datto device and cancel the billing plan for the device.
https://help.datto.com/s/article/KB200555185

Please let us know if you have any further questions.


Regards,
Jeremy Linggoputro
BCDR Technical Support - Level 1

Should you need additional support, please reference your ticket number and any member of our 24/7/365 Support Team can assist you.

Datto Technical Support Team

USA: (833) 832 4780
EMEA: +44 (0) 118 402 9609
Australia: +61 (0)2 8015 6826
Singapore: 800-852-3047

Spelling errors aside, Support just told me to go back to the person that opened the ticket to get my CC details out of their system. Confirming that Datto is no longer the Datto I know and love, and is already a Kaseya like ignorant monstrosity devoid of merit or ability. Also their financials are built into Oracle's NetSuite... eww!
 
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Today is 4/21, I got this response from my Datto rep, and my "Partner Success Manager".

Hi Rob,

Apologies for the delay in response. Your Partner Success Manager @Andrew Pinto and I were able to confirm you would need to remove your CC yourself and then we would be able to inactivate your record and portal. Once you have successfully removed the CC, please let us know and we'll get the process completed on our end.

Please let us know if you have any questions!

Thanks

The problem? The remove button doesn't work in the payment method's screen unless there's more than 1 payment method. So I CANNOT REMOVE my own payment details. I have to replace them with a burner gift card or something.

This is NetSuite 101... more blatant incompetence on open display.
 
Datto's pricing is absolutely asinine. Even I would have a hard time making a profit with their insane prices. Their RMM sucked royally when I tried it a year ago. Super basic, horrible UI, etc.
 
Datto's pricing is absolutely asinine. Even I would have a hard time making a profit with their insane prices.

Most people that don't deal with BDR of servers..and haven't been through a lot of them over the years, and the stress/pressure on you, can't grasp what Datto does that makes their product stand heads and tails above the crowd.

I've done the "IT for SMB" game for about 30 years. I've dealt with most server backup products (and mechanisms) out there...plus a ton more that many people never heard of. Datto is _the_only_ product....where, if a client calls me with the dreaded call about the server being down, that I do not break out in a sweat worrying about if you'll be able to get the server back up in a hurry if you need to turn to DR.

There's "backup". the old days. If a server caught fire and burned to the ground, the client is "down". You had to spend the time to determine the server was done, or wait for a part like a new RAID controller, motherboard, whatever. Get the parts, put back in. Or say the OS got tanked...you had to reload the OS, and then restore..and hope the backups were good. Likely at least one day, if not several days. Send employees home.

Things matured from "backup" to "BDR"....full image backup. In theory...if the servers OS tanked, or the server caught fire, you could go out, get a new server, restore the image. (assuming you had retail Server license, not OEM). Client is still down for the time...send employees home.

And then there is "Business Continuity"...which is the realm that Datto plays in (sorta one of the leaders of this new tech), basically "failover" servers. If a server catches fire and burns to the ground, I still do not break out in a sweat from that phone call. I'm all sorts of "OK, no problem, we'll have you back up in a jiffy". Usually well under an hour...like a half hour...things are up, employees coffee break is over..back to work. And then I can plan on the real cutover back to a new server, plenty of time to get a new server, order the parts/specs that I want instead of rushing to a "What do you have that can ship out in 1x day"...usually cheap basic junk. And plan my restore at a convenient time.

I go on vacation a lot. I can't count how many times I've had to "restore" services..using Datto, while I'm away. One time a client got their 2x servers ransom wared. I was on vacation, on a boat in the middle of Lake Winnipesaukee..New Hampshire. Tethered my laptop to my phone (I always have laptop with me, even on remote islands in the Bahamas)...thanks to the client being on a Datto Siris 3000 appliance...services back up in about an hour, and I dealt with the restore the weekend after I came back home.

Another time when a huge storm created havoc up the North East coast...wiping out lots of power lines and coastal flooding, a jet engine sub contractor client of ours was to be without power/internet in their campus for over a week. We fired up their servers in the Datto offsite data center, including their Exchange server...flipped their MX records, and the white shirts could continue to do important business work for the next week, until utilities came back at their campus.

I can type pages...and pages...of similar stories here, where a client had an issue, and I easily, painlessly, got services back up VERY quickly for the client. We've sold Datto since 2006 (roughly their first year out), and we have a large number of them out there. so I have a very large sample size to draw from. Their support has been fantastic. I don't have to do much finger lifting. If a unit has a problem, I open a ticket, they dial in and fix it. Or if it's something they can't do (like do something to the clients server)...they'll give me the instrux. I want to spend the LEAST time supporting a backup service. Datto is a white glove service you pay for...well worth the money, I don't have the time to support a huge fleet of backup devices.

Two fairly important clients of ours, one was healthcare, another was under a branch of the military, with servers issues where I had to spin up Datto, and we had some complex logistics to work with, their support was staying in touch with us..calling me on my cell phone every now 'n then to check in on how things were going. I can't think of any other product support that has EVER done that.

For our MSP clients, this is our "go to" backup product. With MSP Level 2 and Level 3 clients, restores are on our time...the client pays a fixed monthly. So I want a product that I KNOW is working, and that I KNOW I can get services back up in a hurry, easily. Because...the more time I spend..the less profitable that client is.

Not many other "backup" brands actually play in the "business continuity" space....at least where their support does all the work. I can think of just 1x other..Axcient. I know some techs can cobble together other products and almost...sorta...try to imitate SOME of what Datto products do.

As for not making money? Yes...Datto is expensive, yet..it's so worth it. You double your cost. How can you not make money from doubling your cost? Well, you can price it however you want, there is no rule. But typically MSPs will double the cost. If a Siris 4000 (4TB plan) costs mid 400s a month, you turn and sell it for upper 800's a month. Or if the client has a ton of other MSP services from you, maybe be nice and round down to 799/month. Yeah, 4TB, that's for a larger business with several servers. Say a single server unit, like an Alto...sell a backup service at 150/month is too much? For everything that it can do? It's a no brainer! For the BDR (business continuity) that a Datto Alto can provide to a small business business with a single server...just 150/month is not a hard sell. If you can't sell that...dunno what to tell you. But until you've been through many real actual server emergencies, and you can realistically tell clients how long it REALLY can take to put humpty dumpty back together and get everything working again (<===this is where so many IT people fail)...business owners can appreciate the honest and will gladly open their checkbooks and stroke a check for a service like this. I can't count the times a client told me "Yup, it suuuuuure was worth it! I see what you meant"

So yeah, profit wise, Datto is one of our larger slices of pie if you look at our income from different services each month. It's easy...peasy...gravy. Just sits and makes things easy for you, and rolls in the cash. Without you putting in much time.
 
Yeah there can be no argument that Datto's BDR is top of class. The rest of the crap they sell now not so much IMHO, but their BDR is amazing.

And yet, I'm still a week and a half in and cannot remove my CC details from their system before the Kaseya cancer takes hold, looks like I'm already too late. Good thing that card expires in two months!
 
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