D7/D7II vs. Ultra Virus Killer (UVK) vs. Tweaking.com's Windows Repair (AIO)

[Charger440]

Nick, I am getting really tired of you acting like everyone else is stupid. You are just mad because you have a serious attitude problem and I am the one "customer", "ex-customer" or what ever it is you choose to categorize me as to make you feel better that does not think it's cool to be cussed out by people you buy software from.

The following was an honest review from me on d7 and d7ii and he disrespectful response to it.

I just now got around to checking out d7II and I have 2 things to say. The interface is a lot nicer and I am NOT paying a yearly subscription for anything. d7s' GUI is rather sloppy but, the program is really good! d7IIs' GUI looks much cleaner (kinda what I expect a software title to look like as a programmer also) and it seems like the code was rewritten for faster execution (also just a software version). If it were a major version you want to charge for I would gladly pay you for your hard work as I have used d7 a lot. However, on a subscription basis you have lost my business, sorry.

His response was:

Jim, it sounds like you are contradicting yourself, you say I have "lost your business" but in the same breath you say you would "gladly pay" for a "major version..." Hmm let me see, not sure what a COMPLETE RE-WRITE OF THE SOFTWARE IS........

To be honest Jim it sounds like I didn't have your "business" at all after your original one-time purchase, which you continue to profit from! Sad... Good riddance.

EDIT: btw, are you serious in that you don't pay a sub for anything?! Not rent or insurance or phone service or anything? wow wish I could live and work where you do. beyond the basics, I have no clue how you are getting by in this business without subscription based tools and services, unless you are just not using anything worth a damn... guess maybe you are still in break/fix service only... sorry about that!!!

Either way, I guess if I've lost your "business" then you've also lost my support and upgrades... you get what you pay for in this world Jim, not a bit more, not a bit less...

It is clear that you do not know what a major upgrade is. That is when things in the program besides obvious bugs are improved and there is actually something new. The biggest difference in d7ii is that you took some things out of it, you finally upgraded to a tabbed interface (which you should have had already) and I would like to say you tripled the price but that is not true. You tripled the price EACH year.

This review was actually only the second time Nick and I talked so how could I have been such a bother at this time?

Honestly Nick, I liked d7 and by default I like d7ii since nothing has really has changed. I just wish you had not decided that since you fixed issues that never should have been in d7 to begin with that you could then charge a tremendous amount more. To be honest, if you had said "Hey guys, I have updated a few things in this version and I would like for you to pay an upgrade fee to get the new version" I just might have done that. But what you did was decide you wanted to make a ton of money for the same old product and then get mad at anyone who did not agree to your exponentially higher price.

 

[Charger440]

Maybe Nick is entitled to charge what he feels is reasonable for his product and if that bothers you then maybe you shouldn't use it.

I agree that Nick is entitled to charge what he wants for "his software." This forum is just one of many examples of him responding something to the effect of WHY would you not pay for MY software, how could you possibly claim it's high priced? You need to buy it because it's the best.

But, your right I guess. He should be allowed to charge what ever high price he wants.

 

[TenYardFight]

Maybe Nick is entitled to charge what he feels is reasonable for his product and if that bothers you then maybe you shouldn't use it.

What's with the name calling? Didn't this guy just post a review in a thread where a review was requested?

 

[Paul Rodgers]

What's with the name calling? Didn't this guy just post a review in a thread where a review was requested?

The guy is being a troll. That makes him fair game in my book.

 

[phaZed]

If you believe that d7II is just a bug-fixed d7 then, well, I'm not sure I have the little words to explain why you would be wrong.

And as for Nick being abusive? ROFLCOPTER! That is hilarious. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one writing you off as a petty troll.

I'm going to have to second this on all points. I contemplated even posting on this thread and I know Nick doesn't need me to come to his rescue... well, anyways..

I was an early adopter of D7. Basically it came hot off the presses and into this forum and I tried it out. I think it was free at first, correct me if I'm wrong, and D7 was his tool for his shop to make his business better. Then he started charging a one-time fee to generate some revenue. Now D7 has evolved into a truly fantastic tool with more options and customization than you can point a stick at. Throughout the iterations of D7 and D7II there has been steady improvements in almost every aspect. I have never noted D7 as being unstable or problematic or buggy as you have stated. When there are problems (Rare) Nick addresses them very quickly with updates and is very active with the community.

I have contacted Nick a few times over the years and every time my problems were resolved within hours if not minutes! He has always been pleasant, knowledgeable and communicates to me as a regular person as opposed to something of "a business" canned answer. I throw a joke or some praise in an email and he shoots back with something like a friend would. I like that, it keeps it personal.
Charger440, looks like you found out he talks to you like a real person and isn't going to sit there and kiss your butt. Your not an end user, he's not an end user.. we're business owners and as such there should be a "special understanding" of how business works. I mean, you don't expect nick to sell 500 copies (or however many he has sold) of D7 and support them for free, forever, do you? How, as a business owner, does that make sense? He has a life too, ya know?!

Plus or minus $200/yr for D7II for a single user/one person shop? What a steal, really. That's two or less virus removals for me. Drop in the bucket. You see, I know how to code in C++ and VB too, but I don't have the time to tend to such a project and it makes a butt load of sense to pay someone else to do this for me while I tend to the business of making money.

The amount of time saved and the automation gained from Nicks tools has literally grown my business 2 or 3 fold if I had to loosely quantify it.

With all due respect Charger440, if you were my customer and was basically demanding special treatment on an already outstanding deal while at the same time disrespecting my hard work, sweat and tears.. I would let you go too. Good riddance. Got better things to do.

 

[FoolishTech]

Seriously Nick, why can't you just make your tool and be happy? Why do you always have to attacking people? You even do it on your own forums, I have seen it. I almost feel sorry for you Nick.....almost... If anyone would like any more proof of the things I said, I can copy and paste them here for you to see.

I do make my tool, I am happy, and I'm not attacking anyone, unlike you. Also, no one here wants to see your carefully selected and edited "copy and paste" efforts.

Everyone here with any amount of longevity in the business has had to fire a customer. It is never pretty. You are that customer, and you are making that fact quite obvious to everyone here. Problem your are going to have here Jim, is that they know me here and can see through your line of ...

Now it's been what, 3, 4, 5 months since you threw your little fit and got fired? How long will it be Jim before you quit harassing me? Get over it and yourself already and move on.

 

[Charger440]

I'm going to have to second this on all points. I contemplated even posting on this thread and I know Nick doesn't need me to come to his rescue... well, anyways..

I was an early adopter of D7. Basically it came hot off the presses and into this forum and I tried it out. I think it was free at first, correct me if I'm wrong, and D7 was his tool for his shop to make his business better. Then he started charging a one-time fee to generate some revenue. Now D7 has evolved into a truly fantastic tool with more options and customization than you can point a stick at. Throughout the iterations of D7 and D7II there has been steady improvements in almost every aspect. I have never noted D7 as being unstable or problematic or buggy as you have stated. When there are problems (Rare) Nick addresses them very quickly with updates and is very active with the community.

I have contacted Nick a few times over the years and every time my problems were resolved within hours if not minutes! He has always been pleasant, knowledgeable and communicates to me as a regular person as opposed to something of "a business" canned answer. I throw a joke or some praise in an email and he shoots back with something like a friend would. I like that, it keeps it personal.
Charger440, looks like you found out he talks to you like a real person and isn't going to sit there and kiss your butt. Your not an end user, he's not an end user.. we're business owners and as such there should be a "special understanding" of how business works. I mean, you don't expect nick to sell 500 copies (or however many he has sold) of D7 and support them for free, forever, do you? How, as a business owner, does that make sense? He has a life too, ya know?!

Plus or minus $200/yr for D7II for a single user/one person shop? What a steal, really. That's two or less virus removals for me. Drop in the bucket. You see, I know how to code in C++ and VB too, but I don't have the time to tend to such a project and it makes a butt load of sense to pay someone else to do this for me while I tend to the business of making money.

The amount of time saved and the automation gained from Nicks tools has literally grown my business 2 or 3 fold if I had to loosely quantify it.

With all due respect Charger440, if you were my customer and was basically demanding special treatment on an already outstanding deal while at the same time disrespecting my hard work, sweat and tears.. I would let you go too. Good riddance. Got better things to do.

Phazed, see this is a prime example....

With all due respect Charger440, if you were my customer and was basically demanding special treatment on an already outstanding deal while at the same time disrespecting my hard work, sweat and tears.. I would let you go too. Good riddance. Got better things to do.

I never one time asked for "special treatment." Nick has just been telling every one I wanted d7ii for free. That was never true and he has absolutely no proof of that. I did however ask him outright and frankly why he thought that d7 was worth $100 or so for a "lifetime" but the almost identical d7ii was worth $299 per year at the time. His response to that was that I was simply too stupid to understand. Now just based on that one statement alone I should have "fired" him (as he seems to like to claim he did to me) on the spot for talking to rude and disrespectfully to a customer.

As for why this all came up this was a thread for a review on three software titles and two of the three I have experience with the software and the makers. It only seems fair to evaluate not only the software but the designers them selves. When I first started using d7 I thought it was good software. It's still made up mostly of other peoples software and ideas but still was good software. After the price hike (Which I personally believed to be unjust) I started looking else where. That's when I ran across UVK It had a small purchase price compared to d7 and I purchased it about 3 months ago. As for Nick claiming I just wanted something for free, in the last 3 months 3 months there have been so many great improvements to UVK mostly do user requests that if he decided the he want to to be paid for the next version I would throw my money down again! He has earned it, there have been bunches of improvements in a very short period of time.

Charger440, looks like you found out he talks to you like a real person and isn't going to sit there and kiss your butt. Your not an end user, he's not an end user.. we're business owners and as such there should be a "special understanding" of how business works. I mean, you don't expect nick to sell 500 copies (or however many he has sold) of D7 and support them for free, forever, do you? How, as a business owner, does that make sense? He has a life too, ya know?!

In a business relationship would you tell the other person they are an idiot or too stupid to understand? It's probably not a good idea. It's ok for you think it but you prolly should say it. If for no other reason than to maintain a level of professionalism. I have never asked for Nicks support. If other people have then that is on them, I never have. I purchased d7 for what it is and for the most part, the third party apps seemed to work pretty well. If he is having a tough time with his software then he should understand the software business is tough now days. For almost every paid app out there, there is a free one that works just as well. That makes it really hard to make living on software.

 

[Charger440]

The guy is being a troll. That makes him fair game in my book.

This is a thread for a review of software. To be all inclusive I reviewed the software AND the authors as that has just as high of an impact as the software it's self. For example that UVK owner is laid back and very willing to help, he almost always adds feature requests to the software and as a result UVK could be considered to be made by his customers.

The flip side of that coin I have been called stupid, idiot and a few other things besides general belittling by Nick. The software has remained largely the same for the last I don't know, 100 "versions." I have even seen him tell people in his own forums they are stupid. If you have not seen this you should look a little harder. Or, maybe you don't want to see it. If that is not enough, he plasters his face all over everything (that's just conceit there).

So, NO, I am not trolling. As I stated, this is a thread for a review and I gave a full review. It just so happened Nick had the more "interesting" story and stuck out more which is something he should like. This way he has more reason to dance around on stage for your attention

 

[Kitten Kong]

ADMIN NOTE: I have cleaned the thread up, and removed any and all libelous comments.

Can everyone please note, that NO libelous comments are allowed on Technibble. We are a forum for computer repair professionals. If ANYONE has an issue with another member, they are to take it up directly with them directly. DO NOT to bring it onto the forum.

Thank you

 

[dombooth]

Wow, what a read on a Monday morning....

Anyway...

d7ii is awesome. I'm not as keen on d7ii v3 as I was with v2 but I've only had it running twice so I'm still getting used to it.

Also, every time I've emailed Nick with a problem etc, he's been on it ASAP!

That is all.

Dom

 

[FoolishTech]

Wow, what a read on a Monday morning....

Anyway...

d7ii is awesome. I'm not as keen on d7ii v3 as I was with v2 but I've only had it running twice so I'm still getting used to it.

Also, every time I've emailed Nick with a problem etc, he's been on it ASAP!

That is all.

Dom

thanks Dom!

I think what you might be having a hard time getting used to is the change in d7II v3 to the UI which is the second line description below apps/internal functions which also state the operating mode of the app.

I realize this can take up a lot of room and force scroll bars if you have a lot of functions or apps in that box, so you can disable the new second line description in Config > Register/Personalize near the top right, where you can disable it for internal functions and/or custom apps individually. That should put things mostly back to the way they were for you.

The other big thing is the ability to add, rearrange, and remove d7II's internal functions - which I don't think you could have any issue with (with the exception that a lot may not have been auto-populated into the listboxes.) While it may be too late if you've already did some work on your config (because it would overwrite your config,) there is a button in Config > Custom Apps > Assign App / Function to Section in the bottom right, which will reset all lists to defaults and put most of what used to be there in the lists. Again, that would overwrite your existing config so don't do it unless you are prepared for that.

 

[glricht]

ADMIN NOTE: I have cleaned the thread up, and removed any and all libelous comments.

Thank you Nige! It was definitely getting tedious.

 

[dombooth]

thanks Dom!

I think what you might be having a hard time getting used to is the change in d7II v3 to the UI which is the second line description below apps/internal functions which also state the operating mode of the app.

I realize this can take up a lot of room and force scroll bars if you have a lot of functions or apps in that box, so you can disable the new second line description in Config > Register/Personalize near the top right, where you can disable it for internal functions and/or custom apps individually. That should put things mostly back to the way they were for you.

The other big thing is the ability to add, rearrange, and remove d7II's internal functions - which I don't think you could have any issue with (with the exception that a lot may not have been auto-populated into the listboxes.) While it may be too late if you've already did some work on your config (because it would overwrite your config,) there is a button in Config > Custom Apps > Assign App / Function to Section in the bottom right, which will reset all lists to defaults and put most of what used to be there in the lists. Again, that would overwrite your existing config so don't do it unless you are prepared for that.

No problem Nick, it's truly an awesome tool and I regret not buying it sooner!!

The hiding descriptions is awesome.

And I've already put most of the apps/functions back where they were in v2 haha.

Screenshot:


Dom

 

[FoolishTech]

And I've already put most of the apps/functions back where they were in v2 haha.

Dom

Some of those items locations weren't thought out very well in v2 -- a lot of the items were originally organized that way to fight and repair malware damage from years back - the game has changed a bit and so should the config.. This is why I've added the ability to sort internal functions, and move items between boxes. I also just added right-click drag n' drop so you can easily move items between boxes without visiting the configuration interface. the caveat is that the drag n' drop in those listboxes is a little finicky, so it must be enabled for use in the HELP menu, and should be disabled again when finished as it interferes with single-click and right-click operations on the apps.

 

[dombooth]

Some of those items locations weren't thought out very well in v2 -- a lot of the items were originally organized that way to fight and repair malware damage from years back - the game has changed a bit and so should the config.. This is why I've added the ability to sort internal functions, and move items between boxes. I also just added right-click drag n' drop so you can easily move items between boxes without visiting the configuration interface. the caveat is that the drag n' drop in those listboxes is a little finicky, so it must be enabled for use in the HELP menu, and should be disabled again when finished as it interferes with single-click and right-click operations on the apps.

Awesome.

And I keep finding stuff d7 will do!

Dom

 

[phaZed]

And I've already put most of the apps/functions back where they were in v2 haha.

Ha, me too, guess that means we don't have to fear the wrath of a "stupid" email lol! I kid! I kid!

 

[FoolishTech]

Ha, me too, guess that means we don't have to fear the wrath of a "stupid" email lol! I kid! I kid!

ROTF nice!

 

[dombooth]

Ha, me too, guess that means we don't have to fear the wrath of a "stupid" email lol! I kid! I kid!

HAHA!!!

Dom

 

[Eric@noware]

I've been using D7 for a few years now, at first the free version then the premium, and switched to D7ii a week or so after release.

The earlier comparison made to a doctor's bag is an extremely apt analogy. D7ii is an entire took kit.

I'll admit that I was a little put off by the price increase at first, but after giving it some thought I realized that the benefits far outweigh the costs of the software.

One of the deciding factors was the no less than awesome customer support that I've received from Nick over they years. Never once has he ridiculed my naive (if not outright stupid) questions (and occasional blow ups), and has always been kind, helpful, and prompt in his replies.

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Tweaking.com is a handy little automated repair tool, but as has been already mentioned, it's just that; a repair tool.

It works great in tandem with D7ii, and is a wonderful addition to the ol' "Doctor's Bag".

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I've not used UVK, so I really can't make a fair assessment.

To be perfectly honest, given the tools available, I'm not exactly running out to try it any time soon.

/2cents

 

[papuchazo]

I finally decided to take the plunge and buy d7II. I've used d7 since before nick started that huge d7 thread and I have loved it ever since. I wasn't quite ready to make the move to d7II since I feel d7 does everything I need.

After watching some of Nick's newest videos showing what it can do and how fast it is, etc, I was sold. Here's to more years of improvements and automation!