contacting competitors

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I am just getting started in the business side of the tech industry and I am wondering if anyone had contacted their competitors before/during/or after you started your business? If so were you honest in telling them that you were starting up and likely to be their competition. And has anyone given or taken customers from a competitor, i.e., they are too busy to help and they refer the customer to you or visa versa?

Many thanks.
 
I have had several of the competitors clients come to me with issues they were not satisfied with from the competition. I called the competitors when I first started to check on prices, then went even with the low man.
 
I have had several of the competitors clients come to me with issues they were not satisfied with from the competition. I called the competitors when I first started to check on prices, then went even with the low man.

Matching your competition's lowest price is not the best tactic. You don't want to be the cheapest guy around, you want to be the best and most professional. People understand that usually costs more. Being the cheapest doesn't attract the best clients.

The rental place in town does computer repair. Their virus removal fee is $25, mine is $99, yet I stay busy and have even taken clients from them.
 
Matching your competition's lowest price is not the best tactic. You don't want to be the cheapest guy around, you want to be the best and most professional. People understand that usually costs more. Being the cheapest doesn't attract the best clients.

The rental place in town does computer repair. Their virus removal fee is $25, mine is $99, yet I stay busy and have even taken clients from them.

I thought this was a fair price for my area, low man virus removal was $80, some wanted $80 for virus removal and then $75 on top of that for spyware removal. I wrapped it all in one service, total malware removal for $80 complete optimization additional. Only one around here below $40 per hour is pizza techs.

EDIT: I also said competition, I only called certain places, ones I seen as competition. There is a guy down the road doing it for probably $30-$40. I did not call him, I did not see him as competition. The main way I found my competition was to ask many people where they took their computers to get fixed, then called, or looked on internet for prices. Worked for me, and I will eventually raise my prices, but it seemed to me to be a good starting point to start out at. Plus people were already used to those prices.
 
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My take

I have never tried to contact one, but a few have contacted me and I have developed relationships with 2 of them.
One is mobile, and I don't go to homes, so I send that business his way, and since he doesn't sell computers or laptops, when the repairs are not worth it and he reccomends a new/used system, he gets it from me so is a win win.

The second one is a laptop expert, and he does my laptop motherboards/screens repairs. He does it faster and better than I would, the price is right, and very qualified for the job
 
When I first started out, I called them all and told them. Not many cared, many blew me off, many didn't answer my calls. I felt like I was doing it for nothing. And I was pretty much.

But now, after a few years out, I have earned the competitors seal of approval I guess and some now refer me clients, I guess I won without trying too hard.

My advice is to just call them and tell them that you don't do everything in computer repair and like to know who is available for referrals if need be. If they ask "what don't you do"? Just say, "I don't know exactly as I am just starting out, so I want to know who is willing to take on my clients the way I do"

Put them on the pedestal with that comment and you can weed out the jerks.

What happened to me about 8 months ago, I went to my big competitior in the 2nd location town and this guy was not happy I was in town. He told me flat out that he was about to close shop up and I should try another town. I laughed at him and told him that I was doing just fine with my services that I offer, had 800 clients and was looking to do well in this town. He still told me to go away. I tried hard to talk to him, but he blew me off.

I can't believe in a town of 100,000 people that he's about to close shop due to lack of work. There is lack of good reviews on him though. Google "Computer repair rochester MN" and he's at the top with crappy reviews. I have no reviews yet.
 
I am just getting started in the business side of the tech industry and I am wondering if anyone had contacted their competitors before/during/or after you started your business? If so were you honest in telling them that you were starting up and likely to be their competition. And has anyone given or taken customers from a competitor, i.e., they are too busy to help and they refer the customer to you or visa versa?

Many thanks.

I think its a REALLY good idea to know all of your competitors personally. Here's why:

1. Partnerships. You never know what business opportunities will come of being on friendly terms with other professionals in the local area. For example, if you're talking to a shop owner and you do onsite, there's a natural link that can be developed to take on onsite work with them. If you're good at laptop repairs, and they arent, there's another connection. If they are a parts reseller and don't do repairs, theres a strong possibility of them referring to you once they know and trust you.

2. Prices. In order to set your price, you need to know what your competitors are charging. Whether you want to work on an 'average' or, say, 20% above the average, the only way to make this calculation accurately is to know what they are charging.

I do not advise under-cutting. It hurts everyone, and there's generally a reason the price is where it is. Charging too little will hurt your business, and once your prices are set your customers will expect to pay that rate, making it a PITA to raise.

3. Resources. Most people in this field start out with 'patchy' skills. Please understand Im not saying all beginners dont know what they are doing - what I AM saying is that unless you are a phenomenally skilled practitioner, you will have 'gaps' in your knowledge that will take time to fill. Another way of saying this is, no-one knows everything about everything. These gaps can be resourced by having local community connections with people who have strengths in areas you lack. (kinda like this board :) ) If you develop a referral system, or a working relationship that has benefits for both sides, people will bend over backwards to help you. Its invaluable to know "who knows what" and to be able to work with people that have skills in areas you don't

4. Where this comes from:
I was lucky in that before I started my business I had great relationships with a couple of stores who I dealt with extensively, and who knew I had good technical knowledge. Once I started out I intentionally kept and developed these connections, knowing they would come in handy.

One of them is a parts-only retailler who gives me all of their repair referrals. In turn I refer my customers to them for parts. Very profitable for both sides.

The other guy is a very seasoned tech who actually offered me a job about 6 months into my business. I had to refuse, as my business is my primary focus, but I kept working on the relationship by just going in and talking with him from time to time and buying parts occasionally. He's really good with large networks, which is something Im not good with. I refer jobs that are over my head in this regard and he throws some onsite work my way. We also phone each other with prickly issues when something comes up and just need to bounce ideas. More me than him but I have been able to help out here and there.

After I started out, I recognised that I needed a local supplier for laptop parts. I was lucky to find a guy in the local area who does chipset-level board repairs (something I can't do) and who has a massive range of parts. The relationship is very profitable for both of us. He repairs machines I cant repair (ie chipset jobs) and I then mark up the repairs and on-sell them to my customers. He's also a great resource for technical info about laptops. I sell machines for him and occasionally throw a direct referral his way to sweeten the deal. Its also a great way to turn jobs around quickly as if I need a bezel, or screen, or optical drive or whatever, he usually has something in stock - which is a lot faster for me than ordering online and waiting for delivery.

Hope it helps.

Jim
 
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If so were you honest in telling them that you were starting up and likely to be their competition.
You will never get a straight answer. If someone were to contact me I'd just tell them "don't waste your time in this business" so that they don't take any of my business.
 
I thought this was a fair price for my area, low man virus removal was $80, some wanted $80 for virus removal and then $75 on top of that for spyware removal. I wrapped it all in one service, total malware removal for $80 complete optimization additional. Only one around here below $40 per hour is pizza techs.
You do realize that "Viruses" and "Spyware" only vary in their dictionary definitions and that there is no practical difference as it relates to it's detection or removal, right? Or are your competitors charging $80 to scan with TrendMicro Antivirus and an additional $75 to run Webroot SpySweeper?
 
before I opened I asked around for their general rates. I think my area is filled with "pizza techs" who just keep the overall prices down. I matched their prices. Then I adjusted my prices as time goes. From what I learned before:

$30 - OS reinstall (N&P)
$50 - DC jacks
$200 - laptop screen
$100 - GPU reflow

The biggest mistake I did was pricing myself too low. I once did a screen for $150 and GPU for $80. I have since brought the prices back up a bit.
 
Matching your competition's lowest price is not the best tactic. You don't want to be the cheapest guy around, you want to be the best and most professional. People understand that usually costs more. Being the cheapest doesn't attract the best clients.

The rental place in town does computer repair. Their virus removal fee is $25, mine is $99, yet I stay busy and have even taken clients from them.

I think this a very important point. Customers who are looking for the lowest price have no loyalty. You'll bend over backwards to fix their problems for the cheapest rate, and the next time they have a problem, they'll looking the cheapest rate again.

It's hard to grow and compete if the only thing you're offering is the lowest price. You should aim to offer a premium service at a good price, not "cheapest computer repair in town"

You'll end up attracting a lot more affluent and loyal customers, instead of building up a list of cheap clients who will try to nickle and dime you on every bill.
 
I think this a very important point. Customers who are looking for the lowest price have no loyalty. You'll bend over backwards to fix their problems for the cheapest rate, and the next time they have a problem, they'll looking the cheapest rate again.

It's hard to grow and compete if the only thing you're offering is the lowest price. You should aim to offer a premium service at a good price, not "cheapest computer repair in town"

You'll end up attracting a lot more affluent and loyal customers, instead of building up a list of cheap clients who will try to nickle and dime you on every bill.

Absolutely Agree. Couldnt have put it better myself :)
 
I have performed work for people that have used other tech services that have failed. I have never sent anyone to another person however.
 
I think this a very important point. Customers who are looking for the lowest price have no loyalty. You'll bend over backwards to fix their problems for the cheapest rate, and the next time they have a problem, they'll looking the cheapest rate again.

It's hard to grow and compete if the only thing you're offering is the lowest price. You should aim to offer a premium service at a good price, not "cheapest computer repair in town"

You'll end up attracting a lot more affluent and loyal customers, instead of building up a list of cheap clients who will try to nickle and dime you on every bill.

+1 absolutely correct! that's the way to build a REAL long-term business
 
+2 Agree entirely and was one of my mistakes when i moved to a new area and looked to get a customer base set up rapidly. I went in at a very low rate for mobile repairs and although a got a trickle of customers per day, i was seriously about to give it all up as it just wasn't working.
As a last straw attempt i doubled my labour rates and within two weeks had tripled the call outs. The lesson i learned is that if you price yourself to low, people think you are a schoolboy working from his bedroom and wont touch you. People expect to pay a fair price for our knowledge and on the most part are happy to do so.
 
As of yet I've never referred anyone to another tech in my area. I am looking into mutual referrals for some stuff (website design mainly since I'm not artistic in nature and often people that are good at that aren't really techs). I did however have another tech who originally wanted some parts from me offer to throw some business my way. He is much further south than me and from what I gather is either too busy/lazy to go to some areas. At on point is he did email me to tell me he was going to send someone my way due to time constraints. The funny part is that that same person already found me and complained that this other "tech" never had time to meet him (even so far as blowing off a meeting).
 
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