Buddy a pizza tech?

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So what do you guys do when you find that a buddy of yours is basically a pizza tech? We were talking the other day and I found out that he has been basically been using some not legit software... How would you handle this? He is wanting to become a tech with me, but now I am kinda nervous about his skills.
 
Luckily I don't have any friends who are "pizza tech's" but I do know what I would do if I did have one. I would let him be. If he's really desperate for money then by all means I will let him do what he has got to do, but of course I will try and help him/her as much as possible, while trying to steer them away without any confrontations.
 
What makes you consider him a pizza tech? Because he cracked software to use?

I dont think that makes him a pizza tech. I think that makes him one of us. At one point in time most if not all, used cracked software, or used software
the way we shouldnt have.

But then we learned the right way of doing things.
 
So what do you guys do when you find that a buddy of yours is basically a pizza tech? We were talking the other day and I found out that he has been basically been using some not legit software... How would you handle this? He is wanting to become a tech with me, but now I am kinda nervous about his skills.

Well if he wants to become a tech with you, if have to let him know how to do things and how not to do things. See how responds to your direction and then you'll know whether or not you should start and/or continue with him.
 
What makes you consider him a pizza tech? Because he cracked software to use?

I dont think that makes him a pizza tech. I think that makes him one of us. At one point in time most if not all, used cracked software, or used software
the way we shouldnt have.

But then we learned the right way of doing things.

I have to agree. Just because he has a cracked program does not make him a pizza tech.
 
Alright, maybe pizza tech is not the correct thing to call him. He has some basic skills, does ask me for information on how to do things. But I consider it a pizza tech when he uses a non-legit version of an OS. I fully understand the needing extra cash, and I do think he would be a good tech once he learns how I do things. Just wanted some advice :) and always willing to listen
 
Alright, maybe pizza tech is not the correct thing to call him. He has some basic skills, does ask me for information on how to do things. But I consider it a pizza tech when he uses a non-legit version of an OS. I fully understand the needing extra cash, and I do think he would be a good tech once he learns how I do things. Just wanted some advice :) and always willing to listen

If he installs the non-legit OS for cheap and advertises for it, then that would make him a pizza tech.
 
Put an obstacle in front of him and see if he can climb it.

Do you think he has good potential? Does he look like he's willing to learn?

I guess the good thing about hiring someone you know is that you may have better picture of what sort of employee s/he would make than may be possible through an interview with someone you dont. I would rather have someone who absolutely loves the technology and is open to learning all about them, than someone who just does it because thats the only skill set they have, and have been doing it for so long they think they know everything - and dont :)

If you really think his skills are weak, maybe put to him that he needs to sit an A+ test before you can hire him, and that his initial position would be 'trainee' with a probationary period rather than 'tech' outright.

The reason I suggest placing A+ infront of him as a hurdle he has to jump, is that it will tell you two important things about him: (1) that he's prepared to learn, and (2) that he's genuinely keen on the job and on working with computers. Both important attributes for a potential employ in this Industry, which does require a love of the machines, and a preparedness to engage in ongoing learning to keep up with new developments in their technologies.

If he's not, either of those points will be invalid at which point you have to ask the question of his usable potential in a responsible technical job role.

I guess the other thing about A+ is that it will give him a reality check of how much he doesnt know, which may give him some perspective on the actual skills and knowledge he has to work on to be viable in the job. If this is the case it will also impart a bit of humility which will be useful to you as his employer by being able to show him how the job is done properly, if you opt to take him on.

There are probably many other ways to assess his potential before taking the plunge, this is just what comes to mind as a suggestion.

Good luck with it. Whatever you decide, let us know how it goes?
 
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What makes you consider him a pizza tech? Because he cracked software to use?

I dont think that makes him a pizza tech. I think that makes him one of us. At one point in time most if not all, used cracked software, or used software
the way we shouldnt have.

But then we learned the right way of doing things.

I have to agree. I still have and sometimes use a Hiren's CD and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
 
Alright, maybe pizza tech is not the correct thing to call him. He has some basic skills, does ask me for information on how to do things. But I consider it a pizza tech when he uses a non-legit version of an OS. I fully understand the needing extra cash, and I do think he would be a good tech once he learns how I do things. Just wanted some advice :) and always willing to listen

Is he using the OS to install on customer PC's? Or using it for himself?
 
I would dare say that most of us were all pizza techs at one point. It takes a lot of learning to become a real tech.

If I had a friend that was really wanting to learn to be a real tech, then I would help them out. I would suggest some self learning, and also let him/her help in the shop.

Most of my knowledge came from self learning and college. I wish I had someone that I could have studied under.
 
I would dare say that most of us were all pizza techs at one point.
Depends on your definition of a pizza tech. I think the general consensus isn't that it solely based on your knowledge/experience, but rather, the lack thereof, combined with shady, unproffesional actions. For example, someone who works for a legitimate tech shop, learning the basics can still repair computers on client machines, but under close supervision. I wouldn't throw them in with the lots, but the guy on Craigslist offering to install Windows 7 for $30, shows up unshaven in flip flops with no paperwork and a CD Wallet full of bootleg disks? That would fit my definition.
 
What makes you consider him a pizza tech? Because he cracked software to use?

I dont think that makes him a pizza tech. I think that makes him one of us. At one point in time most if not all, used cracked software, or used software
the way we shouldnt have.

But then we learned the right way of doing things.


My thoughts exactly....

Or maybe I don't understand. Is he installing non-legit versions of the OS for customers? Or he just uses a non-legit version of the OS himself on his personal computer? If it's the latter, I don't see any connection between that and technical skills.
 
Deal is I know he's just doing what he can to help pay bills. I have no problem with that. But he had a "customer" of his (personal friend) and installed the OS on that. I have no issue with him using it for himself... although I would push him to legit it if I hire him.

We did talk and he knows that I won't allow him to put sketchy software on any client PC. And he is interested in taking some of the A+ practice tests that I have from a few years back.
 
If you do take this friend on and you supply him with tools to do the job, ie legit software and he is good at it I would not worry to much, just let him no who is boss and what you will tolerate and will not tolerate.
 
Depends on your definition of a pizza tech. I think the general consensus isn't that it solely based on your knowledge/experience, but rather, the lack thereof, combined with shady, unproffesional actions. For example, someone who works for a legitimate tech shop, learning the basics can still repair computers on client machines, but under close supervision. I wouldn't throw them in with the lots, but the guy on Craigslist offering to install Windows 7 for $30, shows up unshaven in flip flops with no paperwork and a CD Wallet full of bootleg disks? That would fit my definition.

OK then I will say it. Back in the Windows 95/98 days I would be considered a Pizza Tech. Back when you could use 1 key on any number of computers. I was the king of pirated software. But then again at that time I only repaired friends and family computers. It wasn't until later that I cleaned up my act, received education and started being a professional in the computer field. I guess I was assuming that many others on this site started the same same way I did.
 
OK then I will say it. Back in the Windows 95/98 days I would be considered a Pizza Tech. Back when you could use 1 key on any number of computers. I was the king of pirated software. But then again at that time I only repaired friends and family computers. It wasn't until later that I cleaned up my act, received education and started being a professional in the computer field. I guess I was assuming that many others on this site started the same same way I did.


I would say most if not all Techs started this way. Some will lie about it though.
 
Well, I would tell him that if he is going to work with you that he should have legit OS's for himself and customers.

Also, how did you find out that he is using non-legit OS's for install. Did he show you what he did or did you find out some other way?

I would also tell him to make sure to steer away from the "all in one" DVD torrents that have all the OS's on them and you just select the one you want to install. I've heard of techs using this after they verify the COA, then there is no need to have the client look for the disc.
 
I would say most if not all Techs started this way. Some will lie about it though.
While you'll may call me a liar, I'll still say it: I have never offered or installed any bootleg software for any paying client. Sure, I may or may not do it on my own and family machines, but since I started working I've steered clear of that behavior.
 
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