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Acelab (data recovery hardware) wants to sell you something
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It will be interesting to see how many computer shops decide to spend more than $10K on a system.
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I watched the whole thing without falling asleep. IMO they didn't do a very good at trying to sell nor a very good job at showcasing the PC3000, nor the different levels and types of of data recovery.
I do not want brush off what PC3000 cab do, I think it's a super duper cool tool, but some of what PC3000 does can also be done with cheaper, or even free tools. They simply waved this off as "simple stuff" (paraphrasing). Logical data recovery for example. Now although this can be done without complex hardware, it does not mean it's simple or that PC3000 would be the best tool for that job. Arguably, and this is what Serge of DeepSpar makes a case for, logical stuff might better be left to developers that purely can concentrate on this type of recovery.
When there was a good chance to get technical, like explain SMR + why drive manufacturers often implement the TRIM command with these drives, and I'm sure a lot of people like to understand this, they over-simplified this so much that it became plain wrong at some point. He sort of said at some point, "SMR complex and thus it creates some errors", or something along those lines. While this is nonsense plus irrelevant when you're going to demonstrate recovery of data affected by TRIM.
And "I go really bad" when a supposed technical authority starts explaining trimmed data by telling us the drive thinks it's just zero data. A drive "thinks" nothing, it was designed, programmed to return zero filled sectors for sectors that aren't referenced as 'in use' in the translator even if the sectors still contain data.
They should really watch Serge or DeepSpar videos FTM, they so much clearer show "this is what you can do with software only" and "and this is where you run into the limitations of software only tools" and "this how our product will help you accomplish your task". Swinging back to PC3000, it would be so easy to cook up some practical cases where software only and even DeepSpar tools start falling short and in which PC3000 saves the day.
The SSD part was better IMO but watcher should be aware of the fact that there more SSD models and controllers that PC3000 can not deal with than models it can handle. And that SSD models get released faster than what PC3000 developers can keep up with, and that getting access to SSD firmware (and hard drives FTM) gets harder and harder. IOW, there's more SSDs you can not work with then that you can work with, and this will only get worse in the future in absolute numbers and as a percentage of total SSD models.
The impression that data recovery is profitable, they several times, this is the feeling I got at least, tried to give impression "that data recovery with PC3000 was super easy and data recovery is easy money" isn't very truthful IMO. There's plenty of hard cases, cases you put time and effort into, more than you get out of it if even anything at all. You need a steady flow of cases, preferably some easy ones too to make up for those you lose money on. It's my impression but I don't have numbers to back it up, it's just from hearing here and there and left and right, that plenty data recovery shows are struggling or closing.
I think, and I think @lcoughey may agree, you'd be better of at this point, in investing in something like RapidSpar + R-Studio, or USB Stabilizer + R-Studio, or even dedicate a PC to run OpenSuperClone + R-Studio or UFS or DMDE (OSC + DMDE = $100 + cost of modest PC), and spend some time getting to know these tools. Partner with a full blown data recovery lab to get some help getting the best out of these tools and to outsource complex cases and drives that need cleanroom work and/or firmware "hacks" and translators rebuilt.
My 2 cents.
I do not want brush off what PC3000 cab do, I think it's a super duper cool tool, but some of what PC3000 does can also be done with cheaper, or even free tools. They simply waved this off as "simple stuff" (paraphrasing). Logical data recovery for example. Now although this can be done without complex hardware, it does not mean it's simple or that PC3000 would be the best tool for that job. Arguably, and this is what Serge of DeepSpar makes a case for, logical stuff might better be left to developers that purely can concentrate on this type of recovery.
When there was a good chance to get technical, like explain SMR + why drive manufacturers often implement the TRIM command with these drives, and I'm sure a lot of people like to understand this, they over-simplified this so much that it became plain wrong at some point. He sort of said at some point, "SMR complex and thus it creates some errors", or something along those lines. While this is nonsense plus irrelevant when you're going to demonstrate recovery of data affected by TRIM.
And "I go really bad" when a supposed technical authority starts explaining trimmed data by telling us the drive thinks it's just zero data. A drive "thinks" nothing, it was designed, programmed to return zero filled sectors for sectors that aren't referenced as 'in use' in the translator even if the sectors still contain data.
They should really watch Serge or DeepSpar videos FTM, they so much clearer show "this is what you can do with software only" and "and this is where you run into the limitations of software only tools" and "this how our product will help you accomplish your task". Swinging back to PC3000, it would be so easy to cook up some practical cases where software only and even DeepSpar tools start falling short and in which PC3000 saves the day.
The SSD part was better IMO but watcher should be aware of the fact that there more SSD models and controllers that PC3000 can not deal with than models it can handle. And that SSD models get released faster than what PC3000 developers can keep up with, and that getting access to SSD firmware (and hard drives FTM) gets harder and harder. IOW, there's more SSDs you can not work with then that you can work with, and this will only get worse in the future in absolute numbers and as a percentage of total SSD models.
The impression that data recovery is profitable, they several times, this is the feeling I got at least, tried to give impression "that data recovery with PC3000 was super easy and data recovery is easy money" isn't very truthful IMO. There's plenty of hard cases, cases you put time and effort into, more than you get out of it if even anything at all. You need a steady flow of cases, preferably some easy ones too to make up for those you lose money on. It's my impression but I don't have numbers to back it up, it's just from hearing here and there and left and right, that plenty data recovery shows are struggling or closing.
I think, and I think @lcoughey may agree, you'd be better of at this point, in investing in something like RapidSpar + R-Studio, or USB Stabilizer + R-Studio, or even dedicate a PC to run OpenSuperClone + R-Studio or UFS or DMDE (OSC + DMDE = $100 + cost of modest PC), and spend some time getting to know these tools. Partner with a full blown data recovery lab to get some help getting the best out of these tools and to outsource complex cases and drives that need cleanroom work and/or firmware "hacks" and translators rebuilt.
My 2 cents.
Definitely my own experience.
Worth case for me ran for nearly 4 months on RS, completed perfectly but it tooks its time.
Other cases 1 or 2 days.
And those that end up having to be referred to a larger recovery lab for hardware interventions and recovery.
Even cases that come in seemingly simple, for deleted or lost files can turn out to be from hardware issues and require more efforts than initially estimated.
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