8 Chinese Nationals Charged in PopUp Scam

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Rarely do we get to see who's behind these "Microsoft" pop up scams.

"Eight Chinese nationals on student visas in the United States have been indicted for their alleged role in a scam targeting elderly Americans through fraudulent computer pop-ups, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Pennsylvania announced on July 11.

The defendants, who came to the United States to attend college, are accused of defrauding more than 50 victims across 19 states out of more than $10 million. They were indicted by a federal grand jury in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, for conspiracy to commit wire fraud.

“These indictments highlight the relentless efforts of Homeland Security Investigations [HSI] to safeguard our elderly population from complex fraud operations,” Edward V. Owens, HSI Philadelphia special agent in charge, said in a statement.

“Schemes like these cause significant emotional and financial harm to elderly victims across the country. HSI, in partnership with the FBI, remains steadfast in our commitment to securing justice for the victims and ensuring that those responsible are held fully accountable.”

The defendants are Yankun Jiang, 24, and Hanlin Yang, 24, both of State College, Pennsylvania; Chenhao Chen, 25, Xiaoqing Tu, 24, and Dongjie Lu, 35, all three of California; Lei Bao, 22, of New York; Kuo Zhang, 31, of New Jersey; and Jiacheng Zhang, 25, of Florida.

According to the second superseding indictment, the defendants are accused of running the computer pop-up scam from August 2023 to February 2024. The pop-ups were disguised as coming from Microsoft, falsely warning victims that their computers had been hacked and displaying a phone number to call for help.

When victims called the number, they were allegedly fed various lies, for example, that their bank accounts were “not secure” and that they would need to withdraw from their savings, according to the court document.

To conceal their crimes, the defendants allegedly instructed the victims not to tell anyone what they had been told, and to tell banks that the large cash withdrawals were for purposes such as “home remodeling,” the court document states.

The defendants or “couriers” who were part of the conspiracy allegedly traveled to the victims’ homes to collect the money while impersonating a “federal agent” or “federal marshal,” according to the court document.

If convicted, each defendant faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a fine.

Supporting article. https://californiainsider.com/california-news/crime-public-safety/8-chinese-nationals-on-student-visas-charged-in-computer-pop-up-scam-targeting-elders-5886856?utm_medium=email&utm_source=caiwarm&utm_campaign=CAIwarm-07-14-2025&utm_content=CalNews2&est=iNAtmiVO1Jf0nbXHooaCeOinzq2oagNHjTWp6P4Qp0FHmfuyDRqRCZxPzcE=&fbclid=IwY2xjawLiowVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlmZPpWIgIwvJ542j5n6FOf4Zb4HHxUJSmiatBfEegh2XqVspon9-rzN1q2v_aem_FuA-cXNE9qiN_KSOBRrYfA
 
Makes you wonder how they choose their victims, doesn't it? Someone employed by a bank or other financial institution who would have access to their age and financial worth?

I've been saying for some time that these kinds of attacks aren't of a "smash and grab" nature. They are carefully planned and targeted (as most "organized crime" is, really). It would not surprise me if the prep for this was many months long, as well as having a slow teasing out of funds over time.

If you can get $10 million from "more than 50 victims" (which implies, to me, not many more) those are very juicy targets that were very carefully selected both financially and psychologically. Spear-phishing writ large.
 
I've been saying for some time that these kinds of attacks aren't of a "smash and grab" nature. They are carefully planned and targeted (as most "organized crime" is, really). It would not surprise me if the prep for this was many months long, as well as having a slow teasing out of funds over time.

If you can get $10 million from "more than 50 victims" (which implies, to me, not many more) those are very juicy targets that were very carefully selected both financially and psychologically. Spear-phishing writ large.
Exactly and that's why I wonder if they have someone in some financial institution [or even a credit reporting bureau for that matter] that is culling target information.
 
Exactly and that's why I wonder if they have someone in some financial institution [or even a credit reporting bureau for that matter] that is culling target information.

Of course they have information sources, probably multiple information sources. You can't do what was done without them. Hardly the first time that "inside informants" are part of a conspiracy to defraud.
 
Our data is hacked and harvested all the time so likely some report from a previous hack/leak gave them the details to target and that data I suspect was either self harvested or bought on a black market.
 
Makes you wonder how they choose their victims, doesn't it? Someone employed by a bank or other financial institution who would have access to their age and financial worth?

Yeah this group was certainly hand-picking some more elite victims. Unlike the more common..."stumble across anyone" scammers out there that catch anyone that they can.
 
Yeah, I tried to see if I could find more reporting on it but everything I found was pretty much a copy and paste of the article linked here. Because journalism.
 
Let's look at this from with in the context of the current administration with the most important to them starting at the top.

1. Chinese nationals
2. Student visas
3. Elderly victims

In my book that's why this has showed up on radar. Not that there's anything special about the vector or activities. That's been happening for years. There's probably dozens or even hundreds of these a year.

Most likely they bought a list of active emails. Possibly the victims might have fallen for one before. It's the fake popup scam so they just need to get them to click on a hyperlink to pull up the fake threats.
 
I hope they are genuinely guilty they give them a long prison sentence. Well 20 years seems long enough to where they probably will not do it again.

Also, of course, give the money back to the victims...

Our Government (law enforcement) is the master of saying it is proceeds to a crime and claiming civil asset forfeiture to keep the proceeds vs giving it back. Big difference helping the elderly vs becoming an accomplice to the crime.
 
I hope they are genuinely guilty they give them a long prison sentence. Well 20 years seems long enough to where they probably will not do it again.

Also, of course, give the money back to the victims...

Our Government (law enforcement) is the master of saying it is proceeds to a crime and claiming civil asset forfeiture to keep the proceeds vs giving it back. Big difference helping the elderly vs becoming an accomplice to the crime.

I've spoken to so many people in their I'd say mostly 70 and older crowd that have been scammed or just narrowly escaped it. It makes me wonder in the next say 20-40 years if people will still fall for this stuff as much...something must happen to our brains as we age that we just automatically believe everything we see and hear apparently. In 40 years from now the smart phone will have existed for over like 60 years at that point (if that's even still a thing then lol) But I guess as they say there's a sucker born every minute. Between scammers and security the boomer generation is having a helluva time trying to keep up with this stuff.

Makes me think the scamming will just evolve with all the digital currency becoming a thing and everything being online now...just more opportunities for things to get breached and stolen. Also with the government wanting everyone to have an online account with ssa.gov that will be another target for information. One person just a month or 2 back the scammer had them log right into that account to "check to see if hackers had gotten in" so who knows what info they probably got from that in a matter of minutes.
 
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