2004 running trim after every reboot

[Galdorf]

I have noticed something odd every time 2004 is rebooted or shutdown-turned on it runs trim every time at this rate it will shorten life of any ssd i have been checking logs on regular basis on many machines running 2004.

Also there is an issue with malwarebytes and 2004 performance and crashing as well.

 

[phaZed]

No, it wont. TRIM is simply an ATA command from the OS to the SSD, to perform a TRIM operation. The drive will then perform any TRIM operations needed. TRIM only allows the OS to logically mark the SSD memory pages so that the SSD will IGNORE those pages during garbage collection, which EXTENDS the life of the drive. TRIM does not read/writes - it's the GARBAGE COLLECTION on the SSD that does the read/writes... so by having Windows/OS mark those pages preemptively, the garbage collection skips those.. so in reality, TRIM is going to LOWER the SSD reads/writes.


https://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/TRIM#
The SSD TRIM command simply marks the invalid data and tells the SSD to ignore it during the garbage collection process. The SSD then has fewer pages to move during garbage collection, which reduces the total number of program/erase cycles (P/E cycles) to the NAND flash media and prolongs the life of the SSD. NAND flash wears out due to the long-term effects of the P/E cycle, so reducing the number of erases can lengthen the endurance of the SSD.

In order for TRIM to function, the host's OS and the SSD must support it. For example, in a Windows environment, when an SSD reports that it has TRIM support, the OS will disable disk defragmentation and enable TRIM. When a user deletes a file, the OS sends a TRIM command to the SSD controller to tell it which data pages can be erased when the garbage collection process takes places. The TRIM command and the write command operate independently of each other. The user also has the option to initiate the TRIM command manually or schedule it on a daily basis.

 

[britechguy]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...t-defragger-bug-defrags-ssd-drives-too-often/

Will likely be fixed in short order.

 

[Porthos]

Also there is an issue with malwarebytes and 2004 performance and crashing as well.

Only with certain configurations. Not all users are having issues. The problem is tracking down the cause.

 

[Galdorf]

Only with certain configurations. Not all users are having issues. The problem is tracking down the cause.

https://windowsreport.com/windows-10-version-2004-defrags-ssd/

 

[britechguy]

But Microsoft has already stated a fix is in for this, it just hasn't been released yet.

If one wants to turn off automatic disk maintenance, whether temporarily or permanently, that's easy enough to do until the fix is released. For myself, worrying about a few extra TRIM cycles is just not worth it.

People still seem to think that today's (or even somewhat close to today's) SSDs are as "lifespan fragile" as the early ones, and they're far, far from it.

 

[Porthos]

https://windowsreport.com/windows-10-version-2004-defrags-ssd/

I am sorry, I am referring to Malwarebytes.

 

[Sky-Knight]

But Microsoft has already stated a fix is in for this, it just hasn't been released yet.

If one wants to turn off automatic disk maintenance, whether temporarily or permanently, that's easy enough to do until the fix is released. For myself, worrying about a few extra TRIM cycles is just not worth it.

People still seem to think that today's (or even somewhat close to today's) SSDs are as "lifespan fragile" as the early ones, and they're far, far from it.

Right? Oh no! My 500gb WD Blue 3D VNAND is only going to live 19 years instead of 20! The sky is falling!

And of course that's 1000% exaggeration because this event probably only shaved a few weeks off the impacted platforms.

 

[Archon Prime]

Right? Oh no! My 500gb WD Blue 3D VNAND is only going to live 19 years instead of 20! The sky is falling!

And of course that's 1000% exaggeration because this event probably only shaved a few weeks off the impacted platforms.

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